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		<title>By: ABCs of Freelance Writing: L is for Letter &#124; Suess&#039;s Pieces</title>
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		<dc:creator>ABCs of Freelance Writing: L is for Letter &#124; Suess&#039;s Pieces</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2011 22:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] navigate the entire clinic from the actual site, you might want to use these follow-up links: Day 2, Day 3, Day 4, Day 5, Day 6, Day [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 18:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first line is a bit too close to the first lines of many scam/spam emails (Dear so-and-so, I am Mrs. Blahdeblah from Nigeria and I need your help).  An editor reading quickly might trash it right off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first line is a bit too close to the first lines of many scam/spam emails (Dear so-and-so, I am Mrs. Blahdeblah from Nigeria and I need your help).  An editor reading quickly might trash it right off.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Derby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy Derby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 15:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil,

Just received your email and responded.  You&#039;ll be my first writer neighbor. :-)


LS,

I feel the same way you do on the ghostwriting issue, although I can see where there would be cases in which people would need to be able to show ghostwritten samples.  I suppose if I were in a situation where all my samples where ghostwritten, I&#039;d feel differently.  I think I&#039;d still get my clients&#039; permission to show the samples to potential clients.  I suppose it depends on who you work for and what sort of agreement you&#039;ve signed.  Some clients might be fine with the issue while others wouldn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil,</p>
<p>Just received your email and responded.  You&#8217;ll be my first writer neighbor. <img src='http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>LS,</p>
<p>I feel the same way you do on the ghostwriting issue, although I can see where there would be cases in which people would need to be able to show ghostwritten samples.  I suppose if I were in a situation where all my samples where ghostwritten, I&#8217;d feel differently.  I think I&#8217;d still get my clients&#8217; permission to show the samples to potential clients.  I suppose it depends on who you work for and what sort of agreement you&#8217;ve signed.  Some clients might be fine with the issue while others wouldn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Shell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 13:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought I&#039;d try the &quot;Good morning&quot; opening today and see what happens. I&#039;ve had quite a good response with my other letters in the past, but thought I&#039;d give this one a try.

Don&#039;t forget guys the actual email subject line has to be very eye catching too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought I&#8217;d try the &#8220;Good morning&#8221; opening today and see what happens. I&#8217;ve had quite a good response with my other letters in the past, but thought I&#8217;d give this one a try.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget guys the actual email subject line has to be very eye catching too!</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 12:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LS

The ghosted materials I mentioned aren&#039;t written for other writers, but for firms or execs who wouldn&#039;t be seeking writing positions (they would be seeking CFO, CEO, tech, or other non-writing positions). Releases are blinded in such a way that name of firm doesn&#039;t appear and I mention that they&#039;re blinded to protect identities of clients.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LS</p>
<p>The ghosted materials I mentioned aren&#8217;t written for other writers, but for firms or execs who wouldn&#8217;t be seeking writing positions (they would be seeking CFO, CEO, tech, or other non-writing positions). Releases are blinded in such a way that name of firm doesn&#8217;t appear and I mention that they&#8217;re blinded to protect identities of clients.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 12:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amy,

We are neighbors...I&#039;m about 10 miles east of you. I&#039;ll e-mail you separately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amy,</p>
<p>We are neighbors&#8230;I&#8217;m about 10 miles east of you. I&#8217;ll e-mail you separately.</p>
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		<title>By: L S</title>
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		<dc:creator>L S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 03:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It never occurred to me that you can use ghostwritten pieces as samples. I thought that selling the rights and allowing someone to list themselves as the author would make it inappropriate to claim credit for it. When I see a gig that requires relevant samples, and the only ones I have were ghostwritten, I just don&#039;t apply. Wouldn&#039;t a client be pretty mad to buy something to present as their own only to have the ghostwriter claim it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It never occurred to me that you can use ghostwritten pieces as samples. I thought that selling the rights and allowing someone to list themselves as the author would make it inappropriate to claim credit for it. When I see a gig that requires relevant samples, and the only ones I have were ghostwritten, I just don&#8217;t apply. Wouldn&#8217;t a client be pretty mad to buy something to present as their own only to have the ghostwriter claim it?</p>
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		<title>By: Micah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Micah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 03:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I struggle with removing the &quot;I&quot; statements as Phil pointed out also.

I find listing links to my articles works well and a simple high point list of my two columns and blog help.

It&#039;s getting into another niche that I find difficult.

This is a great topic and I am learning alot from everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I struggle with removing the &#8220;I&#8221; statements as Phil pointed out also.</p>
<p>I find listing links to my articles works well and a simple high point list of my two columns and blog help.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s getting into another niche that I find difficult.</p>
<p>This is a great topic and I am learning alot from everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Derby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy Derby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 02:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil,

I live in Tinley Park.  Feel free to email me.  It would be nice to know a local writer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil,</p>
<p>I live in Tinley Park.  Feel free to email me.  It would be nice to know a local writer.</p>
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		<title>By: Mariella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mariella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 02:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh wow, all this talk about ghostwriting made me realize that I actually ghostwrite for a living. 

Let&#039;s see...I started out my career with ghostwriting and it&#039;s only recently that I&#039;ve been published as, well, me. 

When I was very new, I submitted ghostwritten clips but I did include a &quot;This piece is only for sampling purposes, don&#039;t use it bla bla bla...&quot; When I began gaining experience though, I knew better, built a portfolio and submitted those for clips.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh wow, all this talk about ghostwriting made me realize that I actually ghostwrite for a living. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see&#8230;I started out my career with ghostwriting and it&#8217;s only recently that I&#8217;ve been published as, well, me. </p>
<p>When I was very new, I submitted ghostwritten clips but I did include a &#8220;This piece is only for sampling purposes, don&#8217;t use it bla bla bla&#8230;&#8221; When I began gaining experience though, I knew better, built a portfolio and submitted those for clips.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 23:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To reiterate what I said yesterday -- customer focus.  What will you do for your customer?  Why should your customer hire you?  What reasons are you giving?  

Freelance writing is a business. What I would carry away from this letter is that the author is self-absorbed, and carries a lot of personal baggage.  In fact, it sounds like someone that is going to be trouble -- late, and more interested in expanding her horizons than delivering copy.

That&#039;s counterproductive. Write a cover letter that explains why your potential customer is being clever and safe by hiring you to write for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To reiterate what I said yesterday &#8212; customer focus.  What will you do for your customer?  Why should your customer hire you?  What reasons are you giving?  </p>
<p>Freelance writing is a business. What I would carry away from this letter is that the author is self-absorbed, and carries a lot of personal baggage.  In fact, it sounds like someone that is going to be trouble &#8212; late, and more interested in expanding her horizons than delivering copy.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s counterproductive. Write a cover letter that explains why your potential customer is being clever and safe by hiring you to write for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 22:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My biggest concern with this letter is that it is not obvious why it was written.  I would have opened with why I am the perfect writer for job x.   If the job was for a blogging parent-writer, for example, all of the personal information wouldn&#039;t be irrelevant.  

This letter needs a focal point, and it shouldn&#039;t come in the closing line or the reader may not get that far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My biggest concern with this letter is that it is not obvious why it was written.  I would have opened with why I am the perfect writer for job x.   If the job was for a blogging parent-writer, for example, all of the personal information wouldn&#8217;t be irrelevant.  </p>
<p>This letter needs a focal point, and it shouldn&#8217;t come in the closing line or the reader may not get that far.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 21:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though I agree with others that you wouldn&#039;t put family info in the letter unless pitching a parenting pub, another item to remember is that one should use &quot;12,&quot; not twelve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though I agree with others that you wouldn&#8217;t put family info in the letter unless pitching a parenting pub, another item to remember is that one should use &#8220;12,&#8221; not twelve.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 20:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amy,

What burb are you in? I just noticed that we may be neighbors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amy,</p>
<p>What burb are you in? I just noticed that we may be neighbors.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 20:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Relatively new to freelancing, and with my high paying gig being more of a marketing job, I&#039;m wondering how different freelance/writing cover letters really need to be from ones for marketing/pr/whatever jobs? Like most people, what called my attention about this letter is how personal it was, which I haven&#039;t seen too much in my experience.

We just finished the hiring process for a top-level employee for my NGO(actually, we&#039;re making the final decision today...trying to hire someone from abroad for an international job is really tough). Reading so many cover letters, I found myself doing something similar to Deb&#039;s old boss. Frankly, I only cared about someone&#039;s personal story/motivations if I already had the feeling that s/he was right for the job. First and foremost, I wanted s/he to say &quot;I&#039;m a fit because of ABCD&quot; (huge fan of the bulleted list, I am). I want to be assured that s/he is  talented, and I want s/he to prove it. Then, if relevant to the position (like many said above) I&#039;d like to hear more about what makes the person even more committed to the project, i.e. being a parent, gardener, masochist, o que sea.

However, I&#039;ve never been on the hiring end of a writing job. I have used the same format to get freelance clients for whom I write. Any thoughts on the fundamental differences between &quot;professional&quot; (for lack of a better term...I&#039;ve been thinking in Spanish all day) and &quot;freelance&quot; cover letters? I think that would be a really helpful distinction as we see more letters from writers who are possibly transitioning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Relatively new to freelancing, and with my high paying gig being more of a marketing job, I&#8217;m wondering how different freelance/writing cover letters really need to be from ones for marketing/pr/whatever jobs? Like most people, what called my attention about this letter is how personal it was, which I haven&#8217;t seen too much in my experience.</p>
<p>We just finished the hiring process for a top-level employee for my NGO(actually, we&#8217;re making the final decision today&#8230;trying to hire someone from abroad for an international job is really tough). Reading so many cover letters, I found myself doing something similar to Deb&#8217;s old boss. Frankly, I only cared about someone&#8217;s personal story/motivations if I already had the feeling that s/he was right for the job. First and foremost, I wanted s/he to say &#8220;I&#8217;m a fit because of ABCD&#8221; (huge fan of the bulleted list, I am). I want to be assured that s/he is  talented, and I want s/he to prove it. Then, if relevant to the position (like many said above) I&#8217;d like to hear more about what makes the person even more committed to the project, i.e. being a parent, gardener, masochist, o que sea.</p>
<p>However, I&#8217;ve never been on the hiring end of a writing job. I have used the same format to get freelance clients for whom I write. Any thoughts on the fundamental differences between &#8220;professional&#8221; (for lack of a better term&#8230;I&#8217;ve been thinking in Spanish all day) and &#8220;freelance&#8221; cover letters? I think that would be a really helpful distinction as we see more letters from writers who are possibly transitioning.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Derby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy Derby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 20:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil,

I don&#039;t write press releases, but I can see how it would be difficult if you weren&#039;t allowed to send samples you&#039;d written for clients.  I can&#039;t see how a client would complain about that, but I suppose it would depend on the agreement.

Robin,

I agree with you.  If a client doesn&#039;t care enough to tell a writer his terms or have the writer sign a contract, it shouldn&#039;t be an issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t write press releases, but I can see how it would be difficult if you weren&#8217;t allowed to send samples you&#8217;d written for clients.  I can&#8217;t see how a client would complain about that, but I suppose it would depend on the agreement.</p>
<p>Robin,</p>
<p>I agree with you.  If a client doesn&#8217;t care enough to tell a writer his terms or have the writer sign a contract, it shouldn&#8217;t be an issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 20:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Concentrate on your writing and sell your ideas. A cover letter is to introduce yourself(not the whole family) and sell a few simple ideas to get the editiors attention. You sound like you know your stuff in the topics you are tring to sell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Concentrate on your writing and sell your ideas. A cover letter is to introduce yourself(not the whole family) and sell a few simple ideas to get the editiors attention. You sound like you know your stuff in the topics you are tring to sell.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amy,

To be honest, I haven&#039;t read that deeply into the minutiae of these agreements -- yes, maybe I should have, but neither side typically is interested in going this route. I work for some PR firms, but that use these, but they typically have different client bases and seldom go after the same clients (these are smaller agencies, not the big guys). 

So if I was writing a case study for PR 1 and trying to get work from PR 2, I would send the draft (so no PR firm name is on it) of the press release, case study, etc., but would blind the end client. For example, a release involving P&amp;G (I&#039;ve never done one for them directly or indirectly) would say &quot;a major consumer good company&quot; rather than P&amp;G in any forwarded material. In this instance, I would also blind the name of the product or any other identifying info. 

By the way, I almost never get involved in consumer goods, like P&amp;G, so I think this provides a good example without violating any written or &quot;understood&quot; contracts.

You probably have a better handle on legal issues. If I was trying to operate my own pr firm while subbing for others, this could be an issue. But I stay with the writing, not in distribution of releases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amy,</p>
<p>To be honest, I haven&#8217;t read that deeply into the minutiae of these agreements &#8212; yes, maybe I should have, but neither side typically is interested in going this route. I work for some PR firms, but that use these, but they typically have different client bases and seldom go after the same clients (these are smaller agencies, not the big guys). </p>
<p>So if I was writing a case study for PR 1 and trying to get work from PR 2, I would send the draft (so no PR firm name is on it) of the press release, case study, etc., but would blind the end client. For example, a release involving P&amp;G (I&#8217;ve never done one for them directly or indirectly) would say &#8220;a major consumer good company&#8221; rather than P&amp;G in any forwarded material. In this instance, I would also blind the name of the product or any other identifying info. </p>
<p>By the way, I almost never get involved in consumer goods, like P&amp;G, so I think this provides a good example without violating any written or &#8220;understood&#8221; contracts.</p>
<p>You probably have a better handle on legal issues. If I was trying to operate my own pr firm while subbing for others, this could be an issue. But I stay with the writing, not in distribution of releases.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, another thing I do with ghostwritten pieces on my website. I have a paragraph explaining that I have extensive experience ghostwriting, but because I don&#039;t own the copyrights, I cannot put the pieces on my site. I do have a list of many of the titles of the pieces I have ghostwritten, broken up into categories. At the bottom of the list, I say that if anyone would like to see a sample of one of these articles, please e-mail me and I will send them a paragraph or two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, another thing I do with ghostwritten pieces on my website. I have a paragraph explaining that I have extensive experience ghostwriting, but because I don&#8217;t own the copyrights, I cannot put the pieces on my site. I do have a list of many of the titles of the pieces I have ghostwritten, broken up into categories. At the bottom of the list, I say that if anyone would like to see a sample of one of these articles, please e-mail me and I will send them a paragraph or two.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of the ghostwriting I have done has been through a third party. They get the work and farm it out to others. Only once have I been asked by the person doling out the work to sign an agreement saying that I can&#039;t claim that I wrote the piece. It was only for a specific group of articles.

Since I have not signed anything for these third party clients nor have I signed anything for the person I worked for, I don&#039;t feel under any obligation to not use the articles I write as samples. I would assume if the client wants it differently, he would make sure he got it in writing. I would be more than happy to adhere to an agreement. But if there&#039;s no agreement, I have no reason to think the client would have a problem with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of the ghostwriting I have done has been through a third party. They get the work and farm it out to others. Only once have I been asked by the person doling out the work to sign an agreement saying that I can&#8217;t claim that I wrote the piece. It was only for a specific group of articles.</p>
<p>Since I have not signed anything for these third party clients nor have I signed anything for the person I worked for, I don&#8217;t feel under any obligation to not use the articles I write as samples. I would assume if the client wants it differently, he would make sure he got it in writing. I would be more than happy to adhere to an agreement. But if there&#8217;s no agreement, I have no reason to think the client would have a problem with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Derby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy Derby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil,

I&#039;ve never signed a non-compete agreement either.

I&#039;m just curious, in the cases where you&#039;ve signed an NDA but have blocked out the name in a sample, did the contract say you were selling all rights to claim the work as your own or performing work-for-hire?  I liken ghostwriting to work-for-hire, but maybe I&#039;m wrong?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never signed a non-compete agreement either.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just curious, in the cases where you&#8217;ve signed an NDA but have blocked out the name in a sample, did the contract say you were selling all rights to claim the work as your own or performing work-for-hire?  I liken ghostwriting to work-for-hire, but maybe I&#8217;m wrong?</p>
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		<title>By: Allena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OO fun Deb! I agree with all of the above. Actually, after the first sentence I would have stopped. NEVER open with personal info.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OO fun Deb! I agree with all of the above. Actually, after the first sentence I would have stopped. NEVER open with personal info.</p>
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		<title>By: (army)wife</title>
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		<dc:creator>(army)wife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see the point of listing your previous work or present work experience in your cover letter.  That is what a resume is for.  I think a cover letter is more for the qualifications/attributes you wouldn&#039;t necessarily find in the description of your job.  For example, if this were for a parenting/WAHM job, I think its fine to say in the cover letter that you would be a benefit to this company because you have a family and you&#039;re constantly finding new and creative ways to keep your family happy.  I also think that a cover letter is a place to address the qualifications/attributes the employer wants in an employee and how you match up to those needs.  You don&#039;t list personal attributes in your resume.  Instead, in your resume you would list the when, where and how of particular jobs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see the point of listing your previous work or present work experience in your cover letter.  That is what a resume is for.  I think a cover letter is more for the qualifications/attributes you wouldn&#8217;t necessarily find in the description of your job.  For example, if this were for a parenting/WAHM job, I think its fine to say in the cover letter that you would be a benefit to this company because you have a family and you&#8217;re constantly finding new and creative ways to keep your family happy.  I also think that a cover letter is a place to address the qualifications/attributes the employer wants in an employee and how you match up to those needs.  You don&#8217;t list personal attributes in your resume.  Instead, in your resume you would list the when, where and how of particular jobs.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amy,

I have same NDAs in some cases. I don&#039;t mention name of client, just that there are other (type of firm), and offer a &quot;blinded&quot; article...&quot;blinded&quot; enough that name of end firm or even industry are indistinguishable. I mention that NDA prevents providing more detail. 

I&#039;m not saying you&#039;re wrong in how you go about it. But I&#039;m comfortable enough in how I handle it.

Additionally, with your background, you&#039;d know this but other readers might not: An NDA is different than a non-compete. I will agree to limited non-compete clauses (I don&#039;t want to steal clients), but unless someone is going to pay benefits, I won&#039;t agree in writing not to work for a competitor, that&#039;s a one-sided agreement -- they don&#039;t agree not to hire other writers. However, I typically don&#039;t work for DIRECT competitors unless the relationship sours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amy,</p>
<p>I have same NDAs in some cases. I don&#8217;t mention name of client, just that there are other (type of firm), and offer a &#8220;blinded&#8221; article&#8230;&#8221;blinded&#8221; enough that name of end firm or even industry are indistinguishable. I mention that NDA prevents providing more detail. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying you&#8217;re wrong in how you go about it. But I&#8217;m comfortable enough in how I handle it.</p>
<p>Additionally, with your background, you&#8217;d know this but other readers might not: An NDA is different than a non-compete. I will agree to limited non-compete clauses (I don&#8217;t want to steal clients), but unless someone is going to pay benefits, I won&#8217;t agree in writing not to work for a competitor, that&#8217;s a one-sided agreement &#8212; they don&#8217;t agree not to hire other writers. However, I typically don&#8217;t work for DIRECT competitors unless the relationship sours.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Derby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy Derby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 18:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m certainly no authority on the subject, but I have never used ghostwritten work as a work sample without my client&#039;s permission.  To me, that is a violation of the rights my client has purchased.  For some clients, I have signed non-disclosure agreements which state I can&#039;t even say &quot;I&#039;ve worked for so-and-so&quot; on my resume.  After working in the legal field, I&#039;ll admit I&#039;m more than cautious about covering myself.  I&#039;m not saying it&#039;s wrong to send a ghostwritten sample in all cases, just that I try to avoid doing it.  I&#039;ve run into a few instances where I&#039;ve really needed a clip or sample to show to a potential client in a field where I&#039;ve done nothing with my own byline, and in those cases I&#039;ve gotten my clients&#039; permission.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m certainly no authority on the subject, but I have never used ghostwritten work as a work sample without my client&#8217;s permission.  To me, that is a violation of the rights my client has purchased.  For some clients, I have signed non-disclosure agreements which state I can&#8217;t even say &#8220;I&#8217;ve worked for so-and-so&#8221; on my resume.  After working in the legal field, I&#8217;ll admit I&#8217;m more than cautious about covering myself.  I&#8217;m not saying it&#8217;s wrong to send a ghostwritten sample in all cases, just that I try to avoid doing it.  I&#8217;ve run into a few instances where I&#8217;ve really needed a clip or sample to show to a potential client in a field where I&#8217;ve done nothing with my own byline, and in those cases I&#8217;ve gotten my clients&#8217; permission.</p>
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