Comments on: And Another Thing… http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/2008/04/and-another-thing/ Mutual Respect Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:25:14 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: PreSchool Mama http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/2008/04/and-another-thing/comment-page-1/#comment-23195 PreSchool Mama Thu, 24 Apr 2008 07:20:14 +0000 http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/and-another-thing/#comment-23195 At this point, there's nothing to add, it's all been said. I wonder where all these morons disappear to when Deb posts their emails. At this point, there’s nothing to add, it’s all been said. I wonder where all these morons disappear to when Deb posts their emails.

]]> By: Camille Platt http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/2008/04/and-another-thing/comment-page-1/#comment-23173 Camille Platt Thu, 24 Apr 2008 00:53:46 +0000 http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/and-another-thing/#comment-23173 I completely agree. If someone wants to offer a job for $20, and I am fast enough to get it done in an hour, I just made $20/hr. If it's not my style or good enough pay for my time, I don't apply or accept. No big deal. Plus, start-up writers need to get their first pieces published somewhere. I wrote a handful of things for free in college, and they are what launched my career. I completely agree. If someone wants to offer a job for $20, and I am fast enough to get it done in an hour, I just made $20/hr. If it’s not my style or good enough pay for my time, I don’t apply or accept. No big deal. Plus, start-up writers need to get their first pieces published somewhere. I wrote a handful of things for free in college, and they are what launched my career.

]]> By: Kellea Croft http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/2008/04/and-another-thing/comment-page-1/#comment-23159 Kellea Croft Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:53:43 +0000 http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/and-another-thing/#comment-23159 I hoped you would make money from this site, it is a very valuable asset to any writer and you put a lot of hard work into it. I check it out every day and have gathered so much courage to write from reading your posts. I am now working at restaurant reviews and finding jobs here and there. I have fibromyalgia and cannot hold down a full time job, writing has given me a new lease on life and it is a great amount of thanks to you. Good onya, keep your chin up... you can never please all the people all the time, so you need to do what pleases you. I hoped you would make money from this site, it is a very valuable asset to any writer and you put a lot of hard work into it. I check it out every day and have gathered so much courage to write from reading your posts.
I am now working at restaurant reviews and finding jobs here and there. I have fibromyalgia and cannot hold down a full time job, writing has given me a new lease on life and it is a great amount of thanks to you.
Good onya, keep your chin up… you can never please all the people all the time, so you need to do what pleases you.

]]> By: Rita Connelly http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/2008/04/and-another-thing/comment-page-1/#comment-23149 Rita Connelly Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:16:08 +0000 http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/and-another-thing/#comment-23149 This person should buy a dictionary or at least take 3rd grade math. Median income means the average income. You get an average by adding up all the wages and then dividing by how many slaries that were used. That means there are some very high above the median and some very low....duh! This person should buy a dictionary or at least take 3rd grade math.
Median income means the average income. You get an average by adding up all the wages and then dividing by how many slaries that were used. That means there are some very high above the median and some very low….duh!

]]> By: Hazel http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/2008/04/and-another-thing/comment-page-1/#comment-23145 Hazel Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:44:10 +0000 http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/and-another-thing/#comment-23145 Washington Independent Writers is having an audioconference about rate-setting on Friday. It's not cheap, but maybe some folks on this list have enough income to support the fee. You can find out more at: http://www.washwriter.org/ BTW, I was already benefiting from the job postings on this site, but now I am finding it invaluable for discussions like this. Thanks! Washington Independent Writers is having an audioconference about rate-setting on Friday. It’s not cheap, but maybe some folks on this list have enough income to support the fee. You can find out more at:
http://www.washwriter.org/
BTW, I was already benefiting from the job postings on this site, but now I am finding it invaluable for discussions like this. Thanks!

]]> By: tjwriter http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/2008/04/and-another-thing/comment-page-1/#comment-23143 tjwriter Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:30:37 +0000 http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/and-another-thing/#comment-23143 Any bumbling fool can look at the housing market as an example and see that location/cost of living affects the value of things. A house in a rural area could go for half of the price of the same house in an urban area. The same applies to a variety of things. Market price simply means what the market is willing to pay at that point in time. But market could mean the world, the US, a region of the US, a state, a city or even a single household. It depends on the context. It's great of you to put together this resource for us, Deb. But everyone should recognize that just because Deb (via Jodee) puts together a list of jobs that fit her wide criteria does not excuse the fact that we must run said jobs through our own filters and see if it is a fit for us. It's not hard to discard and move on from the things that do not make the short list. Spending time spewing crap is not productive or helpful. Any bumbling fool can look at the housing market as an example and see that location/cost of living affects the value of things. A house in a rural area could go for half of the price of the same house in an urban area. The same applies to a variety of things.

Market price simply means what the market is willing to pay at that point in time. But market could mean the world, the US, a region of the US, a state, a city or even a single household. It depends on the context.

It’s great of you to put together this resource for us, Deb. But everyone should recognize that just because Deb (via Jodee) puts together a list of jobs that fit her wide criteria does not excuse the fact that we must run said jobs through our own filters and see if it is a fit for us.

It’s not hard to discard and move on from the things that do not make the short list. Spending time spewing crap is not productive or helpful.

]]> By: Debbie Yost http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/2008/04/and-another-thing/comment-page-1/#comment-23140 Debbie Yost Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:31:56 +0000 http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/and-another-thing/#comment-23140 Hi Deb, I subscribe to your site but most of the time I'm a lurker. I check out some of the jobs you list but so far haven't found any that suit me. True, some of them I pass up simply because the pay isn't worth my time, but I'm a little confused. Why is this person so angry? I consider your website a valuable service. You put together many jobs in one place so it takes me about 30 seconds to review them hwen it would take me much longer if I had to do it on my own. I don't have to pursue low paying jobs, but maybe someone would. More power to them. Frankly, if you did make a little money off this I wouldn't be offended. As I said, you are provided a service. In the end, if people don't like the jobs you list, why not just go somewhere else? Why be so nasty? It seems to me this person is just trying to drum up business and readership. The internet is huge so if you don't like something, go look elsewhere. I, for one, appreciate you and will stick around. Hi Deb,
I subscribe to your site but most of the time I’m a lurker. I check out some of the jobs you list but so far haven’t found any that suit me. True, some of them I pass up simply because the pay isn’t worth my time, but I’m a little confused. Why is this person so angry? I consider your website a valuable service. You put together many jobs in one place so it takes me about 30 seconds to review them hwen it would take me much longer if I had to do it on my own. I don’t have to pursue low paying jobs, but maybe someone would. More power to them. Frankly, if you did make a little money off this I wouldn’t be offended. As I said, you are provided a service. In the end, if people don’t like the jobs you list, why not just go somewhere else? Why be so nasty? It seems to me this person is just trying to drum up business and readership. The internet is huge so if you don’t like something, go look elsewhere.

I, for one, appreciate you and will stick around.

]]> By: WritingHermit http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/2008/04/and-another-thing/comment-page-1/#comment-23131 WritingHermit Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:49:52 +0000 http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/and-another-thing/#comment-23131 I think the writer of that email does not realize that websites such as salary.com are not meant to give you the end-all be-all wage for *anything." In fact, those sites prove Deb's point, since they ask not only for your job title, but also your zip code, because *different areas of the country and the world have different median wages.* The Internet does not have a geographical location per se and hence there is no going rate for online jobs. It is incumbent on the job seeker to find jobs that provide them a living wage in their area. For some, that is $10 an hour. For some, it is $20 or $50. Rents vary, as do costs of living. Also, the whole median wage argument is a bit of slippery slope. You could not really go to your boss in a bricks and mortar business and say "salary.com says I should be earning more." Lots of things affect your wage -- how many want your job, your education level, your skill level, your ability to market yourself. Rather than trying to convince your boss to raise your wage based on your salary.com information, you would have better results proving that you are worth more or even looking for a better paying job elsewhere. Online jobs work the same way. If you see a lower-paying job, negotiate the rate or apply for a better-paying job. /Rant I think the writer of that email does not realize that websites such as salary.com are not meant to give you the end-all be-all wage for *anything.” In fact, those sites prove Deb’s point, since they ask not only for your job title, but also your zip code, because *different areas of the country and the world have different median wages.* The Internet does not have a geographical location per se and hence there is no going rate for online jobs. It is incumbent on the job seeker to find jobs that provide them a living wage in their area. For some, that is $10 an hour. For some, it is $20 or $50. Rents vary, as do costs of living.

Also, the whole median wage argument is a bit of slippery slope. You could not really go to your boss in a bricks and mortar business and say “salary.com says I should be earning more.” Lots of things affect your wage — how many want your job, your education level, your skill level, your ability to market yourself. Rather than trying to convince your boss to raise your wage based on your salary.com information, you would have better results proving that you are worth more or even looking for a better paying job elsewhere. Online jobs work the same way. If you see a lower-paying job, negotiate the rate or apply for a better-paying job.

/Rant

]]> By: Laurel - Freelance Marketing Jobs http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/2008/04/and-another-thing/comment-page-1/#comment-23126 Laurel - Freelance Marketing Jobs Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:49:37 +0000 http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/and-another-thing/#comment-23126 Are you kidding? Where is all this venom and anger coming from? For crying out loud there are so many other crises in the world, in our towns, in our own lives that warrant much more attention and energy. Life is too short to even waste a keystroke, Deb. Are you kidding? Where is all this venom and anger coming from?

For crying out loud there are so many other crises in the world, in our towns, in our own lives that warrant much more attention and energy.

Life is too short to even waste a keystroke, Deb.

]]> By: Lara http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/2008/04/and-another-thing/comment-page-1/#comment-23112 Lara Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:15:16 +0000 http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/and-another-thing/#comment-23112 I agree, agree, agree with all the positive comments and have to add - I don't really care if you do get cash for adds, links, postings. Your work has lead me to some lucrative gigs and I appreciate it immensly. If you get a little money from that who cares. (I know you're not doing it and there is an ethical thing ... I'm just saying ... it's really none of my business when I use the leads you pay to be posted. For Free.) The really cool thing about life is we have our own free will. If you don't like it shut your mouth and hit the road. Carry on, Deb & Jodee! I agree, agree, agree with all the positive comments and have to add – I don’t really care if you do get cash for adds, links, postings. Your work has lead me to some lucrative gigs and I appreciate it immensly. If you get a little money from that who cares. (I know you’re not doing it and there is an ethical thing … I’m just saying … it’s really none of my business when I use the leads you pay to be posted. For Free.) The really cool thing about life is we have our own free will. If you don’t like it shut your mouth and hit the road. Carry on, Deb & Jodee!

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