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		<title>By: Breaking Up With Clients Is Hard To Do.. or is it? &#171; The Hardcore Freelancer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Breaking Up With Clients Is Hard To Do.. or is it? &#171; The Hardcore Freelancer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] article on freelancewritinggigs.com by an inspirational writer by the name of Sue Poremba called The Luxury Of No.  In it, she spoke about how it is sometimes necessary for freelance writers to turn down work [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] article on freelancewritinggigs.com by an inspirational writer by the name of Sue Poremba called The Luxury Of No.  In it, she spoke about how it is sometimes necessary for freelance writers to turn down work [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Shell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 11:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ann, hey Sue has offered some great advice there.

I expect your work with Publisher&#039;s Weekly means an awful lot to you. All I can suggest is to keep your options open. I don&#039;t know how long the training period extends to but if you feel time is passing without as much of a pay check, then it sounds like Sue would make an excellent resource of helpful information. This could lead to even more opportunities and, perhaps, even greater ones. 

@Elizabeth, yes, if that works well for you then I totally understand. Especially if there is little research involved. So, if you&#039;ve got a consistent paying client and lots of work too to boot, then this sounds an ideal situation for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ann, hey Sue has offered some great advice there.</p>
<p>I expect your work with Publisher&#8217;s Weekly means an awful lot to you. All I can suggest is to keep your options open. I don&#8217;t know how long the training period extends to but if you feel time is passing without as much of a pay check, then it sounds like Sue would make an excellent resource of helpful information. This could lead to even more opportunities and, perhaps, even greater ones. </p>
<p>@Elizabeth, yes, if that works well for you then I totally understand. Especially if there is little research involved. So, if you&#8217;ve got a consistent paying client and lots of work too to boot, then this sounds an ideal situation for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 02:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Brandi - I agree.  For me, it isn&#039;t so much about how much I get paid per article, it is about my hourly rate.  $10 per article is a good rate if I can pump out 5 or more of them per hour. 

I work as a freelance writer on a part time basis and make more than I do with my full time job.  Yet, I take on $15 articles on a regular basis.  Once you get familiar with some of the common niches for web writing, you don&#039;t need to do research anymore and you can write a 500 word article with very little work.  Like you said, while I know the $200 article projects are out there, they take much more time and effort to put together and my hourly rate would actually be less by the time all is said and done.

As we keep saying, freelance writing is a business, so I choose to work on the projects that are most cost effective for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Brandi &#8211; I agree.  For me, it isn&#8217;t so much about how much I get paid per article, it is about my hourly rate.  $10 per article is a good rate if I can pump out 5 or more of them per hour. </p>
<p>I work as a freelance writer on a part time basis and make more than I do with my full time job.  Yet, I take on $15 articles on a regular basis.  Once you get familiar with some of the common niches for web writing, you don&#8217;t need to do research anymore and you can write a 500 word article with very little work.  Like you said, while I know the $200 article projects are out there, they take much more time and effort to put together and my hourly rate would actually be less by the time all is said and done.</p>
<p>As we keep saying, freelance writing is a business, so I choose to work on the projects that are most cost effective for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 20:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ann -- I don&#039;t mean to sound negative. Your comment about Publisher&#039;s Weekly has been bothering me since I read it.  I write for a lot of trade publications, and maybe a couple have asked me to write on spec (these days I turn them down), I&#039;ve never had one who wanted me to train to write for their specifications.  I talked to some acquaintances who are regularly published in PW, and they, too, say they can&#039;t recall any training beyond studying the magazine before submitting first articles.  But I was also told that PW is cutting the amount it pays for book reviews.

Obviously, I don&#039;t know what you are doing to train with PW, but your comments tossed up a bunch of red flags for me.

If you are interested in writing for trade publications, I&#039;d be happy to share some of what I&#039;ve learned.  You can find trades that pay well, pay fairly fast, and that can open doors to more steady work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ann &#8212; I don&#8217;t mean to sound negative. Your comment about Publisher&#8217;s Weekly has been bothering me since I read it.  I write for a lot of trade publications, and maybe a couple have asked me to write on spec (these days I turn them down), I&#8217;ve never had one who wanted me to train to write for their specifications.  I talked to some acquaintances who are regularly published in PW, and they, too, say they can&#8217;t recall any training beyond studying the magazine before submitting first articles.  But I was also told that PW is cutting the amount it pays for book reviews.</p>
<p>Obviously, I don&#8217;t know what you are doing to train with PW, but your comments tossed up a bunch of red flags for me.</p>
<p>If you are interested in writing for trade publications, I&#8217;d be happy to share some of what I&#8217;ve learned.  You can find trades that pay well, pay fairly fast, and that can open doors to more steady work.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 17:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ann: I don&#039;t think $40 an article is bad. I&#039;ve written articles for most places on the pay scale. I find that it does in fact take far more time for me to write an article for $500 because of the expectation (from the editor and in my own mind)to research &amp; interview more.

I can make more hourly for lower-paying articles, and I think that&#039;s important to consider. There also are 2 magazines I&#039;m trying to break into now. They both pay well, but even if they didn&#039;t, they&#039;re the top magazines for my niche area. It would be worth it career-wise to write articles for them, even for less pay, because I&#039;m trying to build up the credentials to propose a non-fiction book in this area. So, sometimes the pay isn&#039;t the primary factor in taking an assignment, and I&#039;m glad I have the luxury to make that decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ann: I don&#8217;t think $40 an article is bad. I&#8217;ve written articles for most places on the pay scale. I find that it does in fact take far more time for me to write an article for $500 because of the expectation (from the editor and in my own mind)to research &amp; interview more.</p>
<p>I can make more hourly for lower-paying articles, and I think that&#8217;s important to consider. There also are 2 magazines I&#8217;m trying to break into now. They both pay well, but even if they didn&#8217;t, they&#8217;re the top magazines for my niche area. It would be worth it career-wise to write articles for them, even for less pay, because I&#8217;m trying to build up the credentials to propose a non-fiction book in this area. So, sometimes the pay isn&#8217;t the primary factor in taking an assignment, and I&#8217;m glad I have the luxury to make that decision.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 16:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sue - Publisher&#039;s Weekly, so it&#039;s a very reputable magazine, but they require writers to learn their format first. 

$40 an article for 500 word articles that take me less than an hour to do is very good pay.  I&#039;ve hadmany tell me that $40 is too little.  It truly depends on the situation.  I know travel inside and out and have access to insider information via friends that still work in travel, so it takes me very little to whip up an article on those lines.  $40 is double what my husband earns an hour.

I&#039;ve had higher paying jobs with magazines and lower.  Oddly, it is usually the lower paying jobs that pay on time.  Bottom line, and this is where I find most bickering comes into play, everyone has their own needs.  Someone might be willing to spend hours looking for higher paying jobs while foregoing pay in the meantime.  I need to put food on the table.  I&#039;ll take what I can get while I also spend time looking for higher paying clients.  And, yes, I do both.  I work half days working and half days sending out resumes and/or query letters.

And in the end for me, it is timely payments that matters most.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sue &#8211; Publisher&#8217;s Weekly, so it&#8217;s a very reputable magazine, but they require writers to learn their format first. </p>
<p>$40 an article for 500 word articles that take me less than an hour to do is very good pay.  I&#8217;ve hadmany tell me that $40 is too little.  It truly depends on the situation.  I know travel inside and out and have access to insider information via friends that still work in travel, so it takes me very little to whip up an article on those lines.  $40 is double what my husband earns an hour.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had higher paying jobs with magazines and lower.  Oddly, it is usually the lower paying jobs that pay on time.  Bottom line, and this is where I find most bickering comes into play, everyone has their own needs.  Someone might be willing to spend hours looking for higher paying jobs while foregoing pay in the meantime.  I need to put food on the table.  I&#8217;ll take what I can get while I also spend time looking for higher paying clients.  And, yes, I do both.  I work half days working and half days sending out resumes and/or query letters.</p>
<p>And in the end for me, it is timely payments that matters most.</p>
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		<title>By: Shell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 15:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys, I know I&#039;ve said this before but I did see an article writing gig a few months back offering approx. $1,400 for one article a month. WOW! There are some good ones out there so don&#039;t feel too discouraged yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys, I know I&#8217;ve said this before but I did see an article writing gig a few months back offering approx. $1,400 for one article a month. WOW! There are some good ones out there so don&#8217;t feel too discouraged yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Shell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 15:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shawn, it&#039;s great working for nice people but you have to consider the options here. I do know having steady work makes things more consistent but if you feel you are &#039;over working&#039; for a pittance, then something has to change.

May be find the courage to negotiate a raise, or look for something more worth while. Just an option but at the end of the day it&#039;s your decision :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shawn, it&#8217;s great working for nice people but you have to consider the options here. I do know having steady work makes things more consistent but if you feel you are &#8216;over working&#8217; for a pittance, then something has to change.</p>
<p>May be find the courage to negotiate a raise, or look for something more worth while. Just an option but at the end of the day it&#8217;s your decision <img src='http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: The Freelance Writer's Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Freelance Writer's Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 15:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sue, sorry about butchering your name -- and I completely understand as people have a tendency to want to shorten mine to &quot;wanda,&quot; which I hate. 

So, my sincere apologices.

@Shawn, maybe you need to lose the relationship. My mother used to say how do you ever expect new and better clothes to fit in your closet if you won&#039;t clean out all the old, ill-fitting ones. It&#039;s an analogy for life, no?

Yuwanda</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sue, sorry about butchering your name &#8212; and I completely understand as people have a tendency to want to shorten mine to &#8220;wanda,&#8221; which I hate. </p>
<p>So, my sincere apologices.</p>
<p>@Shawn, maybe you need to lose the relationship. My mother used to say how do you ever expect new and better clothes to fit in your closet if you won&#8217;t clean out all the old, ill-fitting ones. It&#8217;s an analogy for life, no?</p>
<p>Yuwanda</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 15:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ann -- I&#039;m curious.  What kind of training are you doing for nothing with a major magazine?  Not knowing anything about it raises a few red flags for me.  If you are doing any writing at all for them, you should either be getting paid or a letter grade toward a college degree.

And something else that I learned along the way -- you can do better than $40 an article! Trust me, I&#039;ve been in that boat where I felt the need to take any job that came along just because it paid. I had bills to pay, too, and I didn&#039;t want to go back to an office job. But it really was a light bulb moment to realize that I could be spending just as much time earning $200 for an article as I did $15.  

This is a business, and you have to treat it like one.  Rather than wait for clients with money problems to send work your way, use the time to make a real market push.  

One of my favorite jokes of all time goes like this: A man prays every night to win the lottery, but he never does.  Finally, he says to God, &quot;God, I pray every night for you to let me win the lottery, but every night I go to bed just as poor as the night before. Why won&#039;t you let me win?&quot; To which God replies, &quot;You have to buy a *(&amp;^ ticket first!&quot;
I think this joke applies to writing.  You can&#039;t expect the great jobs and the money to fall into your lap. You have to work at it. The more you work at it, the more likely you&#039;ll hit the lottery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ann &#8212; I&#8217;m curious.  What kind of training are you doing for nothing with a major magazine?  Not knowing anything about it raises a few red flags for me.  If you are doing any writing at all for them, you should either be getting paid or a letter grade toward a college degree.</p>
<p>And something else that I learned along the way &#8212; you can do better than $40 an article! Trust me, I&#8217;ve been in that boat where I felt the need to take any job that came along just because it paid. I had bills to pay, too, and I didn&#8217;t want to go back to an office job. But it really was a light bulb moment to realize that I could be spending just as much time earning $200 for an article as I did $15.  </p>
<p>This is a business, and you have to treat it like one.  Rather than wait for clients with money problems to send work your way, use the time to make a real market push.  </p>
<p>One of my favorite jokes of all time goes like this: A man prays every night to win the lottery, but he never does.  Finally, he says to God, &#8220;God, I pray every night for you to let me win the lottery, but every night I go to bed just as poor as the night before. Why won&#8217;t you let me win?&#8221; To which God replies, &#8220;You have to buy a *(&amp;^ ticket first!&#8221;<br />
I think this joke applies to writing.  You can&#8217;t expect the great jobs and the money to fall into your lap. You have to work at it. The more you work at it, the more likely you&#8217;ll hit the lottery.</p>
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