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	<title>Comments on: When a &#8220;Screw You!&#8221; Isn&#8217;t Enough</title>
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		<title>By: Scribette</title>
		<link>http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/2008/05/when-a-screw-you-isnt-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-24688</link>
		<dc:creator>Scribette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 21:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dana ... I hope everything turns out well for you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dana &#8230; I hope everything turns out well for you!</p>
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		<title>By: Dana - The Writer's Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/2008/05/when-a-screw-you-isnt-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-24682</link>
		<dc:creator>Dana - The Writer's Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 20:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, Kathy. 

I&#039;m dealing with a deadbeat client at the moment who is hurting my business and am still trying the honey for flies tactics before I turn to vinegar. I&#039;m real close to my limit though and this client is acting like the metallic green fly!  They did this once to me in the past but redeemed themselves so I let my guard down. Shame on me for letting it happen again. :(

I&#039;ve sent a few writers to Angela Hoy and they&#039;ve all seen results from it. She does offer a great service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Kathy. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m dealing with a deadbeat client at the moment who is hurting my business and am still trying the honey for flies tactics before I turn to vinegar. I&#8217;m real close to my limit though and this client is acting like the metallic green fly!  They did this once to me in the past but redeemed themselves so I let my guard down. Shame on me for letting it happen again. <img src='http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve sent a few writers to Angela Hoy and they&#8217;ve all seen results from it. She does offer a great service.</p>
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		<title>By: Scribette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scribette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 15:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL ...  how many times did I say the word &#039;though&#039; in that post??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL &#8230;  how many times did I say the word &#8216;though&#8217; in that post??</p>
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		<title>By: Scribette</title>
		<link>http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/2008/05/when-a-screw-you-isnt-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-24636</link>
		<dc:creator>Scribette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 15:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James - ok! I disagree though ;-) ... I think the post could be applied to Canadians as well. (minus the FBI suggestion perhaps)

As a Canadian though, I understand what you are saying though in general!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James &#8211; ok! I disagree though <img src='http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  &#8230; I think the post could be applied to Canadians as well. (minus the FBI suggestion perhaps)</p>
<p>As a Canadian though, I understand what you are saying though in general!</p>
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		<title>By: James Chartrand - Men with Pens</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Chartrand - Men with Pens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 10:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Scribette - I know that. And I know which organizations to approach. (The cops would not be one of them lol)

It&#039;s the lack of universality in a virtual world that irks me most of all. Every time I see a &quot;U.S. readers only&quot; post, it&#039;s exclusionary. I mean, I&#039;d love to turn my blog 100% Canadian, but how many readers would love me then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Scribette &#8211; I know that. And I know which organizations to approach. (The cops would not be one of them lol)</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the lack of universality in a virtual world that irks me most of all. Every time I see a &#8220;U.S. readers only&#8221; post, it&#8217;s exclusionary. I mean, I&#8217;d love to turn my blog 100% Canadian, but how many readers would love me then?</p>
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		<title>By: Scribette</title>
		<link>http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/2008/05/when-a-screw-you-isnt-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-24593</link>
		<dc:creator>Scribette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 02:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deb - Is it possible to put a link to Angela Hoy&#039;s article at WritersWeekly.com?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deb &#8211; Is it possible to put a link to Angela Hoy&#8217;s article at WritersWeekly.com?</p>
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		<title>By: Scribette</title>
		<link>http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/2008/05/when-a-screw-you-isnt-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-24591</link>
		<dc:creator>Scribette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 02:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam - I tried that originally - it appears that anything with links could not be posted here.

Please visit her website and do a search for the article on the website for further info.

James and Kathy - I am Canadian but I write for mostly US publications ... therefore, this approach can be used.  You can adapt this approach to Canadians as well - by just using the organizations that are applicable to Canadians.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam &#8211; I tried that originally &#8211; it appears that anything with links could not be posted here.</p>
<p>Please visit her website and do a search for the article on the website for further info.</p>
<p>James and Kathy &#8211; I am Canadian but I write for mostly US publications &#8230; therefore, this approach can be used.  You can adapt this approach to Canadians as well &#8211; by just using the organizations that are applicable to Canadians.  <img src='http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 23:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angela Hoy does indeed run an excellent site. I go there as well as here on a regular basis, though I don&#039;t tend to get involved in the discussions there, only have time to do that at one place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angela Hoy does indeed run an excellent site. I go there as well as here on a regular basis, though I don&#8217;t tend to get involved in the discussions there, only have time to do that at one place.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 20:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Scribette: I think maybe your extensive post should be turned into a link, since it&#039;s not your words. I&#039;m sure Ms. Hoy would appreciate the traffic to her own site, rather than have it taken and posted here without her knowledge or authorization.

Since we&#039;re all writers, maybe we should practice what we preach and not steal it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Scribette: I think maybe your extensive post should be turned into a link, since it&#8217;s not your words. I&#8217;m sure Ms. Hoy would appreciate the traffic to her own site, rather than have it taken and posted here without her knowledge or authorization.</p>
<p>Since we&#8217;re all writers, maybe we should practice what we preach and not steal it.</p>
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		<title>By: IrreverentFreelancer</title>
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		<dc:creator>IrreverentFreelancer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 19:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How come I never generate this much discussion at my own blog?! Before I respond to some individual comments, I just want to say that this is take it or leave it advice. I don&#039;t expect everyone to agree with me or to use it. 

@James, yeah, I admit that as an American my suggestions are skewed toward us USians. I haven&#039;t had a need to explore my collection options in Canada or elsewhere, but I know if anyone can dig up some solid advice it&#039;s you. And I live and (hopefully) die by principle, so these efforts are definitely worth it to me. If we&#039;re talking purely economic benefit here, then yes, your point is well taken. 

@Ann, I don&#039;t like to get the police involved unless it&#039;s a substantial amount of money, but from personal experience, I can tell you that an FBI Internet Fraud complaint will result in a call from your local sheriff. How much effort s/he then puts forth on your behalf is questionable. As for Laray Carr, I believe he was using a false identity. Most clients reveal their real names and are therefore much easier to track down. 

@Laurel, YES, an upfront deposit is the smartest move you can make as a freelancer. 

@Matt, The BBB advice is more a scratching-the-back-of-future-dupees strategy. Some BBBs will take action on collection issues; others will not. They will, however, put all complaints into the company&#039;s file (assuming, as you point out, they have one). Then when someone else investigates that company, s/he at least knows another person experienced trouble. I love your alternative suggestions though and will be taking note of them. 

@Ann G., &lt;i&gt;Excellent&lt;/i&gt; advice for instances where you can track down your work online!

@David, I haven&#039;t regretted a single &quot;Screw You!&quot; yet, but to each his own. What I will concede to is that it&#039;s not smart to badmouth people until you&#039;ve run the full course of common courtesy tactics. 

Thank you, Scribette, Erika and David, for seeing that my motivation with my hardnosing isn&#039;t purely self-centered.

@Scribette, I had no idea Angela advocated many of the same techniques I do. It&#039;s good to know I&#039;m on the right track because I consider Angela an expert in this field.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How come I never generate this much discussion at my own blog?! Before I respond to some individual comments, I just want to say that this is take it or leave it advice. I don&#8217;t expect everyone to agree with me or to use it. </p>
<p>@James, yeah, I admit that as an American my suggestions are skewed toward us USians. I haven&#8217;t had a need to explore my collection options in Canada or elsewhere, but I know if anyone can dig up some solid advice it&#8217;s you. And I live and (hopefully) die by principle, so these efforts are definitely worth it to me. If we&#8217;re talking purely economic benefit here, then yes, your point is well taken. </p>
<p>@Ann, I don&#8217;t like to get the police involved unless it&#8217;s a substantial amount of money, but from personal experience, I can tell you that an FBI Internet Fraud complaint will result in a call from your local sheriff. How much effort s/he then puts forth on your behalf is questionable. As for Laray Carr, I believe he was using a false identity. Most clients reveal their real names and are therefore much easier to track down. </p>
<p>@Laurel, YES, an upfront deposit is the smartest move you can make as a freelancer. </p>
<p>@Matt, The BBB advice is more a scratching-the-back-of-future-dupees strategy. Some BBBs will take action on collection issues; others will not. They will, however, put all complaints into the company&#8217;s file (assuming, as you point out, they have one). Then when someone else investigates that company, s/he at least knows another person experienced trouble. I love your alternative suggestions though and will be taking note of them. </p>
<p>@Ann G., <i>Excellent</i> advice for instances where you can track down your work online!</p>
<p>@David, I haven&#8217;t regretted a single &#8220;Screw You!&#8221; yet, but to each his own. What I will concede to is that it&#8217;s not smart to badmouth people until you&#8217;ve run the full course of common courtesy tactics. </p>
<p>Thank you, Scribette, Erika and David, for seeing that my motivation with my hardnosing isn&#8217;t purely self-centered.</p>
<p>@Scribette, I had no idea Angela advocated many of the same techniques I do. It&#8217;s good to know I&#8217;m on the right track because I consider Angela an expert in this field.</p>
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