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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Melissa -- I was so sad to read your post. I am preparing to launch as a freelance grant writer for many reasons: to be around the house when my son is home and to do something &quot;good&quot; are the main reasons. I want you to know that some, probably most, freelance grant writers do it because they care. Of course, they don&#039;t live and breathe your organization, but if the proper relationship were developed over time with one, you may find a strong ally. A grant request doesn&#039;t have to be a one-off event for you and a writer and if you look you may find someone who wants to see your kids succeed as deeply as you. Please don&#039;t let some comments cloud your vision of what a grant writer can be...

Jennifer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Melissa &#8212; I was so sad to read your post. I am preparing to launch as a freelance grant writer for many reasons: to be around the house when my son is home and to do something &#8220;good&#8221; are the main reasons. I want you to know that some, probably most, freelance grant writers do it because they care. Of course, they don&#8217;t live and breathe your organization, but if the proper relationship were developed over time with one, you may find a strong ally. A grant request doesn&#8217;t have to be a one-off event for you and a writer and if you look you may find someone who wants to see your kids succeed as deeply as you. Please don&#8217;t let some comments cloud your vision of what a grant writer can be&#8230;</p>
<p>Jennifer</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an aspiring freelance grant writer, I found this article informative but the feedback has been discouraging. I&#039;m volunteering my time to a start-up church to build a portfolio, thinking I can get hands-on experience on my way to paying jobs. I hope I have better success than some of you who have shared your insights here.

Melissa: I have to respond to your comments regarding your distrust of outside grant writers. My desire to help non-profits is what led me to this area in the first place. Good grantwriters share a passion for one or more areas of interest to which they apply their research and writing skills. They know the field and wish to provide a valuable service. As an outside contractor, I may not be part of your program, but I can still share your vision and help you achieve your goals. 
You could apply this logic to any number of professionals. No one loves your children like you do, yet you trust teachers to give them a quality education. You trust your hairstylist to make your hair look good. You trust a mechanic with your car. In the same way, you trust a good grantwriter to present your program to a prospective funder with a compelling proposal. That&#039;s their job. If, as a grantwriter, I have a heart for youth, then I will do everything in my power to help you find funding to serve those youth. Part of the appeal of grantwriting is that you can benefit your community or the world, on some level, while earning an income.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an aspiring freelance grant writer, I found this article informative but the feedback has been discouraging. I&#8217;m volunteering my time to a start-up church to build a portfolio, thinking I can get hands-on experience on my way to paying jobs. I hope I have better success than some of you who have shared your insights here.</p>
<p>Melissa: I have to respond to your comments regarding your distrust of outside grant writers. My desire to help non-profits is what led me to this area in the first place. Good grantwriters share a passion for one or more areas of interest to which they apply their research and writing skills. They know the field and wish to provide a valuable service. As an outside contractor, I may not be part of your program, but I can still share your vision and help you achieve your goals.<br />
You could apply this logic to any number of professionals. No one loves your children like you do, yet you trust teachers to give them a quality education. You trust your hairstylist to make your hair look good. You trust a mechanic with your car. In the same way, you trust a good grantwriter to present your program to a prospective funder with a compelling proposal. That&#8217;s their job. If, as a grantwriter, I have a heart for youth, then I will do everything in my power to help you find funding to serve those youth. Part of the appeal of grantwriting is that you can benefit your community or the world, on some level, while earning an income.</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 06:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This seems to be quite the hot topic!  On the other side of the coin, I don&#039;t know if I&#039;d trust a freelance grant writer to raise money for my program.  I&#039;m the program manager for a youth center, and I just can&#039;t imagine someone getting hired to write a grant from outside the organization or community.  I mean, my program and the youth served by it are both very dear to me, and I don&#039;t see a contractor being able to &quot;get it&quot; and put the passion backed up by data necessary to get funded.

And reading these comments makes me especiallu leery of having someone come in and write a grant for my program...illiterate? disorganized? yikes!  Illiterate, well, that&#039;s just insulting.  But disorganized, definitely!  We&#039;re doing too much on too few resources.

If you don&#039;t have respect for the work we do and the people we serve, then I wouldn&#039;t want to pay you to seek funding to keep us going! And I say this as the person who writes most of the grants for my own program and also does freelancing on the side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This seems to be quite the hot topic!  On the other side of the coin, I don&#8217;t know if I&#8217;d trust a freelance grant writer to raise money for my program.  I&#8217;m the program manager for a youth center, and I just can&#8217;t imagine someone getting hired to write a grant from outside the organization or community.  I mean, my program and the youth served by it are both very dear to me, and I don&#8217;t see a contractor being able to &#8220;get it&#8221; and put the passion backed up by data necessary to get funded.</p>
<p>And reading these comments makes me especiallu leery of having someone come in and write a grant for my program&#8230;illiterate? disorganized? yikes!  Illiterate, well, that&#8217;s just insulting.  But disorganized, definitely!  We&#8217;re doing too much on too few resources.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t have respect for the work we do and the people we serve, then I wouldn&#8217;t want to pay you to seek funding to keep us going! And I say this as the person who writes most of the grants for my own program and also does freelancing on the side.</p>
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		<title>By: Laurel - Freelance Marketing Jobs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurel - Freelance Marketing Jobs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comments, everyone.  There are obviously some strong opinions about nonprofit writing.  

I agree with Annie, it is important to note that nonprofits are a business.  I worked half my career for B2B corporations, the other in nonprofits.  Neither is perfect.  I tend to weight more heavily my working relationships with individuals, rather than with particular industries.  

Go with what works.  My clients are a mix of markets, industries, etc.  There are many sources of work for freelancers, examine them all and stick with the ones that work for you.  If you are finding the well running dry, move on to something else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments, everyone.  There are obviously some strong opinions about nonprofit writing.  </p>
<p>I agree with Annie, it is important to note that nonprofits are a business.  I worked half my career for B2B corporations, the other in nonprofits.  Neither is perfect.  I tend to weight more heavily my working relationships with individuals, rather than with particular industries.  </p>
<p>Go with what works.  My clients are a mix of markets, industries, etc.  There are many sources of work for freelancers, examine them all and stick with the ones that work for you.  If you are finding the well running dry, move on to something else.</p>
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		<title>By: Lindsey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lindsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I felt compelled to chime in as I used to work in a non-profit. My experience with a non-profit was fairly good, although being a small organization, I was basically just given a desk and told to raise 50 grand, so it was a little stressful. 

However, my favourite parts of the job were always the writing components and I did manage to get some good direct mail campaigns, newsletters etc for my portfolio which have served me well. 

Since I&#039;ve started my freelance career I haven&#039;t really ventured into the world of non-profit, but I will definately give it a shot. 

I think it&#039;s just important to remember that a non-profit is a business and as such, you should be paid accordingly. 

And I agree with Annie, midsized is the way to go. Most of the larger organizations here outsource their copy to large agencies. 

Great post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I felt compelled to chime in as I used to work in a non-profit. My experience with a non-profit was fairly good, although being a small organization, I was basically just given a desk and told to raise 50 grand, so it was a little stressful. </p>
<p>However, my favourite parts of the job were always the writing components and I did manage to get some good direct mail campaigns, newsletters etc for my portfolio which have served me well. </p>
<p>Since I&#8217;ve started my freelance career I haven&#8217;t really ventured into the world of non-profit, but I will definately give it a shot. </p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s just important to remember that a non-profit is a business and as such, you should be paid accordingly. </p>
<p>And I agree with Annie, midsized is the way to go. Most of the larger organizations here outsource their copy to large agencies. </p>
<p>Great post!</p>
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		<title>By: Brandi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Adam: I think it&#039;s more than a matter of one person with a worst-case scenario. Only Laurel seems to have a very positive view of writing for non-profits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Adam: I think it&#8217;s more than a matter of one person with a worst-case scenario. Only Laurel seems to have a very positive view of writing for non-profits.</p>
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		<title>By: Annie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 11:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting perspectives. I just wrote a post about the same topic yesterday (02 June) too, then happened on this one while referencing another article here. 
I&#039;ve found non-profit work to be great, but I do think there is a particular mid-size organization that is the best to work for. The smaller ones tend to be disorganized and so low budget they aren&#039;t always able to pay a working rate to starving writers like us. The biggest ones can be harsh, corporate, and expect you to sacrifice for the cause. 
It&#039;s a worthwhile endeavor, though, and as with any market there will be good and bad experiences. I think the main thing is not to stick to a place that isn&#039;t working for you. Move on, there are other non-profit fish in the pond! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting perspectives. I just wrote a post about the same topic yesterday (02 June) too, then happened on this one while referencing another article here.<br />
I&#8217;ve found non-profit work to be great, but I do think there is a particular mid-size organization that is the best to work for. The smaller ones tend to be disorganized and so low budget they aren&#8217;t always able to pay a working rate to starving writers like us. The biggest ones can be harsh, corporate, and expect you to sacrifice for the cause.<br />
It&#8217;s a worthwhile endeavor, though, and as with any market there will be good and bad experiences. I think the main thing is not to stick to a place that isn&#8217;t working for you. Move on, there are other non-profit fish in the pond! <img src='http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 04:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laurel, loved your post! I think it was one of the most insightful and well written guest blog posts we&#039;ve seen on FWJ. I worked full time at a few nonprofits right after I graduated from college, but so far I haven&#039;t been able to leverage that experience into freelance opportunities with nonprofits because they do tend to write materials in-house or go through an agency. 

HOWEVER, I will say that working a mid-sized nonprofit as an entry-level person gave me more opportunities to write than I would have had in many other industries at the same level. If you&#039;re a good writer who works at a nonprofit they will probably put you to work on writing projects (even if your job description does not include writing). My portfolio still includes samples of the enewsletter I edited and the brochure copy, radio ad, and press releases I wrote at my first job. Yes, I was underpaid, but I&#039;m happy to have clips from several different mediums and the experience of working at an nonprofit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laurel, loved your post! I think it was one of the most insightful and well written guest blog posts we&#8217;ve seen on FWJ. I worked full time at a few nonprofits right after I graduated from college, but so far I haven&#8217;t been able to leverage that experience into freelance opportunities with nonprofits because they do tend to write materials in-house or go through an agency. </p>
<p>HOWEVER, I will say that working a mid-sized nonprofit as an entry-level person gave me more opportunities to write than I would have had in many other industries at the same level. If you&#8217;re a good writer who works at a nonprofit they will probably put you to work on writing projects (even if your job description does not include writing). My portfolio still includes samples of the enewsletter I edited and the brochure copy, radio ad, and press releases I wrote at my first job. Yes, I was underpaid, but I&#8217;m happy to have clips from several different mediums and the experience of working at an nonprofit.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 00:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems no matter what the advice, someone&#039;s experienced the worst case scenario.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems no matter what the advice, someone&#8217;s experienced the worst case scenario.</p>
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		<title>By: Therese</title>
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		<dc:creator>Therese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 00:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PSS--I guess I have a lot to say ha! I don&#039;t mean to take up space.  I also forgot to add that many of the larger non-profits have a communications person on staff who handles all the writing, press releases, media relations, etc.  It goes back to not having any money so they&#039;ll over work their communications person/people (thus, no need for a freelance writer).

Maybe other states have far more lucrative non-profits than California but it&#039;s a sad state out here in California for non-profits right now.  All my friends in non-profit are trying to leave and move on to the business/corporate sector (because they are tired of being overworked and not paid enough).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PSS&#8211;I guess I have a lot to say ha! I don&#8217;t mean to take up space.  I also forgot to add that many of the larger non-profits have a communications person on staff who handles all the writing, press releases, media relations, etc.  It goes back to not having any money so they&#8217;ll over work their communications person/people (thus, no need for a freelance writer).</p>
<p>Maybe other states have far more lucrative non-profits than California but it&#8217;s a sad state out here in California for non-profits right now.  All my friends in non-profit are trying to leave and move on to the business/corporate sector (because they are tired of being overworked and not paid enough).</p>
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