Comments on: Top 10 Ways to Write Without Pay and Still Respect Yourself in the Morning http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/2008/06/top-10-ways-to-write-without-pay-and-still-respect-yourself-in-the-morning/ Freelance Writing Jobs for All Writers Mon, 13 Feb 2012 06:14:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: #7 http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/2008/06/top-10-ways-to-write-without-pay-and-still-respect-yourself-in-the-morning/comment-page-1/#comment-29662 #7 Sun, 29 Jun 2008 18:27:48 +0000 http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/?p=904#comment-29662 @Misty: I'll have to get back to you on the nonprofit ideas (once this contest is over) ... I have to keep my identity secret until then. @Kyle: Glad you like the article. Yes, there are <b>lots</b> of actionable items on the list and Contestant #9 added another to the list: make a press/media kit. @Misty: I’ll have to get back to you on the nonprofit ideas (once this contest is over) … I have to keep my identity secret until then.

@Kyle: Glad you like the article. Yes, there are lots of actionable items on the list and Contestant #9 added another to the list: make a press/media kit.

]]> By: Kyle http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/2008/06/top-10-ways-to-write-without-pay-and-still-respect-yourself-in-the-morning/comment-page-1/#comment-29617 Kyle Sun, 29 Jun 2008 01:06:59 +0000 http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/?p=904#comment-29617 This is the best of all the lists I've read today. If anything, <em>too many</em> actionable items! This is the best of all the lists I’ve read today. If anything, too many actionable items!

]]> By: Misty http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/2008/06/top-10-ways-to-write-without-pay-and-still-respect-yourself-in-the-morning/comment-page-1/#comment-29533 Misty Sat, 28 Jun 2008 02:02:59 +0000 http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/?p=904#comment-29533 Thanks #7. Yes, I would love a little direction. I've always heard writing for nonprofits is a great way to break into copywriting, but with all the hoop jumping Connie mentioned, it gets frustrating. Hoop jumping AND no pay??? Wow, sign me up! :D Thanks #7. Yes, I would love a little direction. I’ve always heard writing for nonprofits is a great way to break into copywriting, but with all the hoop jumping Connie mentioned, it gets frustrating. Hoop jumping AND no pay??? Wow, sign me up! :D

]]> By: #7 http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/2008/06/top-10-ways-to-write-without-pay-and-still-respect-yourself-in-the-morning/comment-page-1/#comment-29440 #7 Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:07:47 +0000 http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/?p=904#comment-29440 @KK: Thanks for popping by to read the post and thanks for showing by example how to create a professional website (and blog, too!). @KK: Thanks for popping by to read the post and thanks for showing by example how to create a professional website (and blog, too!).

]]> By: Jodee http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/2008/06/top-10-ways-to-write-without-pay-and-still-respect-yourself-in-the-morning/comment-page-1/#comment-29414 Jodee Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:58:44 +0000 http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/?p=904#comment-29414 Hey Kristen, (Jodee waving) This great post belongs to one of our FWJ Idol contestants, who is known as Candidate #7. Hey Kristen,

(Jodee waving) This great post belongs to one of our FWJ Idol contestants, who is known as Candidate #7.

]]> By: Kristen King http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/2008/06/top-10-ways-to-write-without-pay-and-still-respect-yourself-in-the-morning/comment-page-1/#comment-29411 Kristen King Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:50:57 +0000 http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/?p=904#comment-29411 This is a great post, Jodee, and I appreciate the link to my site. :) Really, having a website when you're a writer is CRUCIAL. Thanks for the excellent reminder. :) kk This is a great post, Jodee, and I appreciate the link to my site. :) Really, having a website when you’re a writer is CRUCIAL. Thanks for the excellent reminder. :)

kk

]]> By: #7 http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/2008/06/top-10-ways-to-write-without-pay-and-still-respect-yourself-in-the-morning/comment-page-1/#comment-29410 #7 Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:49:37 +0000 http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/?p=904#comment-29410 @Connie: For me, writing for nonprofits has been all about finding a cause I like and good people to work with. It's been trial and error. (Just like finding good freelance gig.) There do seem to be a lot of hoops to jump through with nonprofits, but the best nonprofits make the hoop routine less strenuous. @Connie: For me, writing for nonprofits has been all about finding a cause I like and good people to work with. It’s been trial and error. (Just like finding good freelance gig.) There do seem to be a lot of hoops to jump through with nonprofits, but the best nonprofits make the hoop routine less strenuous.

]]> By: Connie http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/2008/06/top-10-ways-to-write-without-pay-and-still-respect-yourself-in-the-morning/comment-page-1/#comment-29406 Connie Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:29:47 +0000 http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/?p=904#comment-29406 Hey #7, I'd be very interested in learning about which non-profits are the easiest to work with and donate your time for - I have had the same problem Misty has with trying to find one willing to even write me back, and when they do they all want you to jump through about 20 hoops just to work for free lol. That would be an excellent post too! Hey #7,

I’d be very interested in learning about which non-profits are the easiest to work with and donate your time for – I have had the same problem Misty has with trying to find one willing to even write me back, and when they do they all want you to jump through about 20 hoops just to work for free lol.

That would be an excellent post too!

]]> By: The Veil Away: Robert Minto » Blog Archive » The Best of What’s Around, June 26: Helpful Articles on Freelance Writing http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/2008/06/top-10-ways-to-write-without-pay-and-still-respect-yourself-in-the-morning/comment-page-1/#comment-29366 The Veil Away: Robert Minto » Blog Archive » The Best of What’s Around, June 26: Helpful Articles on Freelance Writing Fri, 27 Jun 2008 04:08:08 +0000 http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/?p=904#comment-29366 [...] Top Ten Ways To Write Without Pay and Still Respect Yourself in the Morning — good ideas in here, and some good links. The idea of fake writing samples never occurred to me… But it seems potentially fruitful. [...] [...] Top Ten Ways To Write Without Pay and Still Respect Yourself in the Morning — good ideas in here, and some good links. The idea of fake writing samples never occurred to me… But it seems potentially fruitful. [...]

]]> By: #7 http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/2008/06/top-10-ways-to-write-without-pay-and-still-respect-yourself-in-the-morning/comment-page-1/#comment-29365 #7 Fri, 27 Jun 2008 04:01:58 +0000 http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/?p=904#comment-29365 @theleftovers: I think writing is always worth something. Even if you don't get paid to do it. Even if it doesn't make the NY Times bestseller list. Even if no one else reads it. If its only benefit is to help you clear your head, then writing has done its job. If it pays your car payment or gets published in a magazine, then so much the better. Figuring out what you want your writing to be worth (I'd like mine to be worth the bestseller list) is hard part, don't you think? @theleftovers: I think writing is always worth something. Even if you don’t get paid to do it. Even if it doesn’t make the NY Times bestseller list. Even if no one else reads it. If its only benefit is to help you clear your head, then writing has done its job. If it pays your car payment or gets published in a magazine, then so much the better. Figuring out what you want your writing to be worth (I’d like mine to be worth the bestseller list) is hard part, don’t you think?

]]> By: #7 http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/2008/06/top-10-ways-to-write-without-pay-and-still-respect-yourself-in-the-morning/comment-page-1/#comment-29362 #7 Fri, 27 Jun 2008 03:49:13 +0000 http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/?p=904#comment-29362 @#9: You're <b>so</b> right about setting up your website with a professional domain name. The media kit idea is genius, why didn't I think of that? One online media kit I'd like to emulate is Christina Katz's for her book Writer Mama: http://www.thewritermama.com/authorbio.html. Nothing like making life easy for all our media cohorts. @#9: You’re so right about setting up your website with a professional domain name. The media kit idea is genius, why didn’t I think of that? One online media kit I’d like to emulate is Christina Katz’s for her book Writer Mama: http://www.thewritermama.com/authorbio.html. Nothing like making life easy for all our media cohorts.

]]> By: #7 http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/2008/06/top-10-ways-to-write-without-pay-and-still-respect-yourself-in-the-morning/comment-page-1/#comment-29361 #7 Fri, 27 Jun 2008 03:42:07 +0000 http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/?p=904#comment-29361 @Loraine A: Hi, it's me #7 (not Jodee, even though she did inspire the post and do the work of actually posting it to the site.) You're right, it's great to have alternatives to working for someone else for free. If I'm working for free I want it to be all about me, me, me (or someone or something I love). What about you? @Jenny B & Connie: Thanks for the good feedback. @Morgan: Way to go on your guest post over at Poewar.com. You're right, writing IS magical and that magic is what keeps me coming back to writing over and over again, no matter what else is going on in my life. @Misty: I've had some good, some bad, and some absolutely fabulous pro bono nonprofit gigs. The absolutely fabulous nonprofits make up for the bad! What made them so great? The people and their ability to show appreciation. I can't pay my bills with appreciation, but a simple thank you goes a long way for my ego. I'll be happy to point you directly to a great nonprofit, with a director that knows how to appreciate the non-hired hands. @Loraine A: Hi, it’s me #7 (not Jodee, even though she did inspire the post and do the work of actually posting it to the site.) You’re right, it’s great to have alternatives to working for someone else for free. If I’m working for free I want it to be all about me, me, me (or someone or something I love). What about you?

@Jenny B & Connie: Thanks for the good feedback.

@Morgan: Way to go on your guest post over at Poewar.com. You’re right, writing IS magical and that magic is what keeps me coming back to writing over and over again, no matter what else is going on in my life.

@Misty: I’ve had some good, some bad, and some absolutely fabulous pro bono nonprofit gigs. The absolutely fabulous nonprofits make up for the bad! What made them so great? The people and their ability to show appreciation. I can’t pay my bills with appreciation, but a simple thank you goes a long way for my ego. I’ll be happy to point you directly to a great nonprofit, with a director that knows how to appreciate the non-hired hands.

]]> By: theleftovers http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/2008/06/top-10-ways-to-write-without-pay-and-still-respect-yourself-in-the-morning/comment-page-1/#comment-29359 theleftovers Fri, 27 Jun 2008 03:31:31 +0000 http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/?p=904#comment-29359 This is some great advice. I've been trying to think of ways to make my writing worth something, and this entry really helped. Thanks! This is some great advice. I’ve been trying to think of ways to make my writing worth something, and this entry really helped. Thanks!

]]> By: #9 http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/2008/06/top-10-ways-to-write-without-pay-and-still-respect-yourself-in-the-morning/comment-page-1/#comment-29350 #9 Fri, 27 Jun 2008 02:27:06 +0000 http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/?p=904#comment-29350 Yikes! I didn't realize that it would actually make a hyperlink to a site that doesn't exist. LOL Yikes! I didn’t realize that it would actually make a hyperlink to a site that doesn’t exist. LOL

]]> By: #9 http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/2008/06/top-10-ways-to-write-without-pay-and-still-respect-yourself-in-the-morning/comment-page-1/#comment-29349 #9 Fri, 27 Jun 2008 02:25:57 +0000 http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/?p=904#comment-29349 Great post #7! To add to number 3 on your list...invest in the URL of your name (or something that's close). Don't do the www.someotherfreehost.com/mywebsite thing. Even if it's worked for people, it's not professional and makes it seem more like a hobby...like a yahoo geocite. URLs are so inexpensive now, so it's not like you have to pay an arm-and-a-leg for one. Kristen's site is an excellent example. I'd also add...make a media kit. Even if you're not at a point in your career when you need one, start the template for one anyway. Great stuff #7! :) And you are one class act for acknowledging your inspiration in Jodee's post. Great post #7! To add to number 3 on your list…invest in the URL of your name (or something that’s close). Don’t do the http://www.someotherfreehost.com/mywebsite thing. Even if it’s worked for people, it’s not professional and makes it seem more like a hobby…like a yahoo geocite. URLs are so inexpensive now, so it’s not like you have to pay an arm-and-a-leg for one. Kristen’s site is an excellent example.

I’d also add…make a media kit. Even if you’re not at a point in your career when you need one, start the template for one anyway.

Great stuff #7! :) And you are one class act for acknowledging your inspiration in Jodee’s post.

]]> By: Misty http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/2008/06/top-10-ways-to-write-without-pay-and-still-respect-yourself-in-the-morning/comment-page-1/#comment-29346 Misty Fri, 27 Jun 2008 02:13:18 +0000 http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/?p=904#comment-29346 I like this post... good ideas! I've been interested in trying to do some volunteer writing for a nonprofit, but it seems like they're looking for experienced copywriters! Maybe I'm looking at the wrong nonprofits... I like this post… good ideas! I’ve been interested in trying to do some volunteer writing for a nonprofit, but it seems like they’re looking for experienced copywriters! Maybe I’m looking at the wrong nonprofits…

]]> By: Connie http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/2008/06/top-10-ways-to-write-without-pay-and-still-respect-yourself-in-the-morning/comment-page-1/#comment-29341 Connie Fri, 27 Jun 2008 01:27:31 +0000 http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/?p=904#comment-29341 A+ - Excellent article! A+ – Excellent article!

]]> By: Morgan http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/2008/06/top-10-ways-to-write-without-pay-and-still-respect-yourself-in-the-morning/comment-page-1/#comment-29327 Morgan Thu, 26 Jun 2008 23:28:38 +0000 http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/?p=904#comment-29327 Nicely done with great tips. I am working on all ten and just accomplished tip number 8 with a guest blog spot today. Nicely done with great tips. I am working on all ten and just accomplished tip number 8 with a guest blog spot today.

]]> By: Jenny B http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/2008/06/top-10-ways-to-write-without-pay-and-still-respect-yourself-in-the-morning/comment-page-1/#comment-29323 Jenny B Thu, 26 Jun 2008 23:06:58 +0000 http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/?p=904#comment-29323 This is a great read, with excellent ideas to keep us writing. Thank you for post. This is a great read, with excellent ideas to keep us writing. Thank you for post.

]]> By: Loraine A http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/2008/06/top-10-ways-to-write-without-pay-and-still-respect-yourself-in-the-morning/comment-page-1/#comment-29307 Loraine A Thu, 26 Jun 2008 21:03:12 +0000 http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/?p=904#comment-29307 Hi Jodie Thanks for the great alternatives. Hi Jodie
Thanks for the great alternatives.

]]> By: Jodee http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/2008/06/top-10-ways-to-write-without-pay-and-still-respect-yourself-in-the-morning/comment-page-1/#comment-29302 Jodee Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:15:32 +0000 http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/?p=904#comment-29302 @ #7: Well, thank you for the hat-tip! :) @ #7: Well, thank you for the hat-tip! :)

]]> By: #7 http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/2008/06/top-10-ways-to-write-without-pay-and-still-respect-yourself-in-the-morning/comment-page-1/#comment-29300 #7 Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:12:45 +0000 http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/?p=904#comment-29300 A hat-tip to Jodee for her "I'm a Professional ... So Pay Me Already" post which inspired me to write this post. A hat-tip to Jodee for her “I’m a Professional … So Pay Me Already” post which inspired me to write this post.

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