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	<title>Comments on: Software for Clients to Monitor Freelancers? &#8211; No Way!</title>
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		<title>By: Lindsey</title>
		<link>http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/2008/08/software-for-clients-to-monitor-freelancers-no-way/comment-page-1/#comment-39028</link>
		<dc:creator>Lindsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 01:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jodee,

Good question. We could be using Skype or Msn, so that is another possibility. I know if the project wasn&#039;t hourly, then yea, there would be no reason to use it. But because it&#039;s hourly (and there are a certain number of tasks to be done in that timeframe) it makes it a bit easier. 

But I definately hear what everyone else is saying. It&#039;s a tricky issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jodee,</p>
<p>Good question. We could be using Skype or Msn, so that is another possibility. I know if the project wasn&#8217;t hourly, then yea, there would be no reason to use it. But because it&#8217;s hourly (and there are a certain number of tasks to be done in that timeframe) it makes it a bit easier. </p>
<p>But I definately hear what everyone else is saying. It&#8217;s a tricky issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Dani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 00:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand why if you and the client have agreed to the deadline, project, and price they would feel the need to &#039;monitor&#039; you. They already AGREED to the terms. That seems like a huge invasion of my privacy and that of my other clients - not to mention an open door for &#039;hassles&#039; from clients who would want to use that information to tell me how long it really takes (*eye roll*) to do things. (&#039;cos according to some a well-researched, documented, written and edited 1200 word article should only take 30 minutes, right? lol)

I&#039;ll pass.

I trust them to follow through and pay me fair wages for a fair day&#039;s work without insisting they install spyware so I can monitor their accounting and payment process - our contract covers us both if either side fails to perform as per agreement. They don&#039;t need to be &#039;all up in my business&#039; (which is frankly - none of their business).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand why if you and the client have agreed to the deadline, project, and price they would feel the need to &#8216;monitor&#8217; you. They already AGREED to the terms. That seems like a huge invasion of my privacy and that of my other clients &#8211; not to mention an open door for &#8216;hassles&#8217; from clients who would want to use that information to tell me how long it really takes (*eye roll*) to do things. (&#8217;cos according to some a well-researched, documented, written and edited 1200 word article should only take 30 minutes, right? lol)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll pass.</p>
<p>I trust them to follow through and pay me fair wages for a fair day&#8217;s work without insisting they install spyware so I can monitor their accounting and payment process &#8211; our contract covers us both if either side fails to perform as per agreement. They don&#8217;t need to be &#8216;all up in my business&#8217; (which is frankly &#8211; none of their business).</p>
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		<title>By: Jodee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jodee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Lindsey: I appreciate what you are saying about your experience with oDesk being a positive one. Couldn&#039;t you use something like Skype or Yahoo Messenger to see who is online and working, though?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Lindsey: I appreciate what you are saying about your experience with oDesk being a positive one. Couldn&#8217;t you use something like Skype or Yahoo Messenger to see who is online and working, though?</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Kafka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Kafka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Confidentiality and privacy come first above all for both clients and the freelancers regardless.

That software is just absurd and dangerous period.

And some freelancers may work quickly and some may not. That is what makes the world an interesting, diverse world. People are unique.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Confidentiality and privacy come first above all for both clients and the freelancers regardless.</p>
<p>That software is just absurd and dangerous period.</p>
<p>And some freelancers may work quickly and some may not. That is what makes the world an interesting, diverse world. People are unique.</p>
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		<title>By: Lindsey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lindsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve got some positive comments about Odesk that are pretty much the opposite to what every one is saying here. The best job I ever got was through Odesk, which is my contract position right now. I&#039;m currently hiring writers through Odesk, so I&#039;ve been on both sides. 

In terms of the monitoring aspect, when I did work using 
Odesk it didn&#039;t really bother me. I still had my email open and 
other such things and the company never commented. It was about the 
quality of the work.

I now am on contract with them hiring my own team of writers through 
Odesk. I like it because it allows me to see who&#039;s online and 
working. That way I can estimate when to expect things. I rarely 
check the timelog because for me it&#039;s about quality but it is useful 
to know how long it took for someone to do a project because I&#039;m 
paying them hourly. 

Plus, since it automatically tracks your hours, you can be 
guaranteed payment, a welcome respite for me since I got scammed a 
couple of times in the last few months. 

Odesk definately has it&#039;s problems, but so far, my experience with 
it has been fairly good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got some positive comments about Odesk that are pretty much the opposite to what every one is saying here. The best job I ever got was through Odesk, which is my contract position right now. I&#8217;m currently hiring writers through Odesk, so I&#8217;ve been on both sides. </p>
<p>In terms of the monitoring aspect, when I did work using<br />
Odesk it didn&#8217;t really bother me. I still had my email open and<br />
other such things and the company never commented. It was about the<br />
quality of the work.</p>
<p>I now am on contract with them hiring my own team of writers through<br />
Odesk. I like it because it allows me to see who&#8217;s online and<br />
working. That way I can estimate when to expect things. I rarely<br />
check the timelog because for me it&#8217;s about quality but it is useful<br />
to know how long it took for someone to do a project because I&#8217;m<br />
paying them hourly. </p>
<p>Plus, since it automatically tracks your hours, you can be<br />
guaranteed payment, a welcome respite for me since I got scammed a<br />
couple of times in the last few months. </p>
<p>Odesk definately has it&#8217;s problems, but so far, my experience with<br />
it has been fairly good.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl Wright</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheryl Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would I be offended?

Hell yes!

Cheryl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would I be offended?</p>
<p>Hell yes!</p>
<p>Cheryl</p>
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		<title>By: Ann G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can understand the employee&#039;s viewpoint, but as a freelancer, there&#039;s a reason I freelance, I like being able to adjust my work around my schedule. Thankfully, I usually charge per article, not per hour.

I do have one client paying me hourly, though, and I find it is very uncomfortable. I work diligently on that client&#039;s articles and in the end, I never get feedback. In his mind, I should be able to turn out four articles an hour, so that&#039;s how he judges if I&#039;m working hard enough. Usually his articles are easy to do, but two weeks ago he came up with a brand new line of articles and left it for me to decide what fits into his new categories. I did two to start hoping he could tell me if they&#039;re okay or not and didn&#039;t hear a word. I emailed him again last week to ask if the new articles I did were what he was looking for and was told he was going on vacation for a few weeks and would be back in touch but that I should keep writing and he&#039;d pay me in the end if they were what he wanted. 

Nothing personal, but I&#039;m not putting in the time without knowing if they are acceptable. I can just see him returning and then saying that they aren&#039;t what he wanted so I&#039;ve spent all that time turning in articles that won&#039;t be used.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can understand the employee&#8217;s viewpoint, but as a freelancer, there&#8217;s a reason I freelance, I like being able to adjust my work around my schedule. Thankfully, I usually charge per article, not per hour.</p>
<p>I do have one client paying me hourly, though, and I find it is very uncomfortable. I work diligently on that client&#8217;s articles and in the end, I never get feedback. In his mind, I should be able to turn out four articles an hour, so that&#8217;s how he judges if I&#8217;m working hard enough. Usually his articles are easy to do, but two weeks ago he came up with a brand new line of articles and left it for me to decide what fits into his new categories. I did two to start hoping he could tell me if they&#8217;re okay or not and didn&#8217;t hear a word. I emailed him again last week to ask if the new articles I did were what he was looking for and was told he was going on vacation for a few weeks and would be back in touch but that I should keep writing and he&#8217;d pay me in the end if they were what he wanted. </p>
<p>Nothing personal, but I&#8217;m not putting in the time without knowing if they are acceptable. I can just see him returning and then saying that they aren&#8217;t what he wanted so I&#8217;ve spent all that time turning in articles that won&#8217;t be used.</p>
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		<title>By: shellsw</title>
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		<dc:creator>shellsw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a touchy subject. When it comes to freelancing I agree. We are not anyone&#039;s employee so no we should not be objected to that sort of things to begin with. I frown highly on those type of things anyhow. Where does the limit come on how much is looked at? Like Jodee says, I as well have had clients where I needed to keep the information confidential. In this regards, the spyware would see this information and without the other client knowing it  the client&#039;s things they want to be confidential would be for all eyes.

I strongly believe that a client should inform anyone they are doing that. If they are persistent in wanting to &quot;check all&quot; and not trust us, my feelings are I probably wont trust them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a touchy subject. When it comes to freelancing I agree. We are not anyone&#8217;s employee so no we should not be objected to that sort of things to begin with. I frown highly on those type of things anyhow. Where does the limit come on how much is looked at? Like Jodee says, I as well have had clients where I needed to keep the information confidential. In this regards, the spyware would see this information and without the other client knowing it  the client&#8217;s things they want to be confidential would be for all eyes.</p>
<p>I strongly believe that a client should inform anyone they are doing that. If they are persistent in wanting to &#8220;check all&#8221; and not trust us, my feelings are I probably wont trust them.</p>
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		<title>By: Anjeeta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anjeeta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Odesk is awful and if you live and work in the US you really cant compete with people who are willing to work for $2  an hour. Thats what I faced when I bid for a job on Odesk and the monitoring software is even worse. I work on long term assignments for several clients located overseas and as long as I give them their stuff when they require they really dont need to know if I work on it at 3pm or 3am!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Odesk is awful and if you live and work in the US you really cant compete with people who are willing to work for $2  an hour. Thats what I faced when I bid for a job on Odesk and the monitoring software is even worse. I work on long term assignments for several clients located overseas and as long as I give them their stuff when they require they really dont need to know if I work on it at 3pm or 3am!</p>
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		<title>By: EugenS</title>
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		<dc:creator>EugenS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use odesk to get freelancing gigs, but I only apply to the fixed rate jobs. I didn&#039;t install that software, and I would not use it. I don&#039;t feel ok working like that, with eyes on me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use odesk to get freelancing gigs, but I only apply to the fixed rate jobs. I didn&#8217;t install that software, and I would not use it. I don&#8217;t feel ok working like that, with eyes on me.</p>
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