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		<title>By: Amy</title>
		<link>http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/2008/08/time-vs-timeless/comment-page-1/#comment-39347</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 02:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I guess Gigantuar wouldn&#039;t do much sitting. LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I guess Gigantuar wouldn&#8217;t do much sitting. LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Gigantuar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gigantuar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 23:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Amy - Hey! I like standing on my chair, not sitting in it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Amy &#8211; Hey! I like standing on my chair, not sitting in it!</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gigantuar -- Get back in your chair. LOL As for blogging, my list of questions to ask folks about their blogging needs keeps getting longer and longer before I determine my rates. This is hard enough for an already existing blog that already has an active readership, because things will hopefully grow and get better (with me on board -- hehe). But for a brand new blog, it can be a real crapshoot trying to guestimate how much work will be involved moderating/discussion-wise. I&#039;ve taken to signing on for an amount with a clause that we&#039;ll both reevaluate the rate in three months. I will no longer sign a one year contract, unless it&#039;s one where the pay is so spectacular that I know I won&#039;t mind adding a lot of extra time and commitment to the project.

Tattoo people -- I am too much of a chicken to get a tattoo. I get bored easily too. And I don&#039;t have a fear of needles, but I do have a fear of disease. So I&#039;m pretty sure it&#039;s not for me. Now, those kid tattoos are fun. I could go for some of those. Temporary works for me, in most areas of my life. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gigantuar &#8212; Get back in your chair. LOL As for blogging, my list of questions to ask folks about their blogging needs keeps getting longer and longer before I determine my rates. This is hard enough for an already existing blog that already has an active readership, because things will hopefully grow and get better (with me on board &#8212; hehe). But for a brand new blog, it can be a real crapshoot trying to guestimate how much work will be involved moderating/discussion-wise. I&#8217;ve taken to signing on for an amount with a clause that we&#8217;ll both reevaluate the rate in three months. I will no longer sign a one year contract, unless it&#8217;s one where the pay is so spectacular that I know I won&#8217;t mind adding a lot of extra time and commitment to the project.</p>
<p>Tattoo people &#8212; I am too much of a chicken to get a tattoo. I get bored easily too. And I don&#8217;t have a fear of needles, but I do have a fear of disease. So I&#8217;m pretty sure it&#8217;s not for me. Now, those kid tattoos are fun. I could go for some of those. Temporary works for me, in most areas of my life. <img src='http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Aurora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aurora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Gigantuar - I think you did an excellent job of getting a very *thought-provoking* discussion going.  I really had to stop, collect my own thoughts and ideas before attempting to add my comment.

@others - When I first considered a tattoo I was very worried about the &quot;being permanent&quot; issue. After having one for fifteen years now, I find that that has actually become irrelevant issue, because it becomes just another part of your body. Just like freckles, a mole, stretch marks, a scar --  a person&#039;s body is full of different types of permanent markings. In the end I am glad I decided to add a permanent mark that is beautiful; and one that was added by choice.

@ Deb - I can&#039;t help but to think that working for a tattoo magazine would be an incredible and also a fun experience.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Gigantuar &#8211; I think you did an excellent job of getting a very *thought-provoking* discussion going.  I really had to stop, collect my own thoughts and ideas before attempting to add my comment.</p>
<p>@others &#8211; When I first considered a tattoo I was very worried about the &#8220;being permanent&#8221; issue. After having one for fifteen years now, I find that that has actually become irrelevant issue, because it becomes just another part of your body. Just like freckles, a mole, stretch marks, a scar &#8212;  a person&#8217;s body is full of different types of permanent markings. In the end I am glad I decided to add a permanent mark that is beautiful; and one that was added by choice.</p>
<p>@ Deb &#8211; I can&#8217;t help but to think that working for a tattoo magazine would be an incredible and also a fun experience.  <img src='http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 11:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Gigantaur @Ann - I used to work for a tattoo magazine (International Tattoo Art) and considered a tattoo. But after working there for a while and realizing a tattoo is permanent I passed. I can&#039;t even keep the same hair color from one month to another. I&#039;d be sick of a tattoo after the novelty wore off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Gigantaur @Ann &#8211; I used to work for a tattoo magazine (International Tattoo Art) and considered a tattoo. But after working there for a while and realizing a tattoo is permanent I passed. I can&#8217;t even keep the same hair color from one month to another. I&#8217;d be sick of a tattoo after the novelty wore off.</p>
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		<title>By: Gigantuar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gigantuar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 10:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Ann - Brave, brave woman. I&#039;ve always wanted a tattoo on my arm and I&#039;m banking that when I do get up the courage to actually do it, it&#039;s a nice fleshy part. &#039;Course, I&#039;ll probably be 70 by that time. Ugh.

I keep thinking, &quot;What if he starts and I go OW! OH OW! STOP!&quot;  *sigh*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Ann &#8211; Brave, brave woman. I&#8217;ve always wanted a tattoo on my arm and I&#8217;m banking that when I do get up the courage to actually do it, it&#8217;s a nice fleshy part. &#8216;Course, I&#8217;ll probably be 70 by that time. Ugh.</p>
<p>I keep thinking, &#8220;What if he starts and I go OW! OH OW! STOP!&#8221;  *sigh*</p>
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		<title>By: Gigantuar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gigantuar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 10:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Aurora - Now *that* last line was damned well said.

I&#039;ll agree with your point as well. There is short-term content that is valuable, and I did measure &quot;value&quot; as being the type of post to create inspiration, motivation or teach in some way. Since I blog daily as a full-time job, I get a little sidetracked in my ways ;)  Nice catch.

@ Amy - CHANGE YOUR THEME??!! Ohmigod. *falls off chair*  

That&#039;s just the thing, though - people don&#039;t have to settle for writing posts and forgetting them once the day goes by. There are many ways to put content back in the light, with easy widgets, linking out, different styles of themes...

As for commenting being a full-time job and uncompensated in any way, you are absolutely dead right and dead on. It&#039;s a JOB. It&#039;s a task that requires continual reading for a long, long time and it requires breaking away from paying work to come back to interact with people so they feel happy and heard. 

It&#039;s not an easy job, either. A comment comes along one year after a post goes live, and you have to 1) remember the post, 2) remember preceeding comments, 3) come comment without being redundent and 4) still add to the conversation - a year later. (And how many people surf the net each day? And what if every post written requires this?) Takes a good memory and willingness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Aurora &#8211; Now *that* last line was damned well said.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll agree with your point as well. There is short-term content that is valuable, and I did measure &#8220;value&#8221; as being the type of post to create inspiration, motivation or teach in some way. Since I blog daily as a full-time job, I get a little sidetracked in my ways <img src='http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   Nice catch.</p>
<p>@ Amy &#8211; CHANGE YOUR THEME??!! Ohmigod. *falls off chair*  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s just the thing, though &#8211; people don&#8217;t have to settle for writing posts and forgetting them once the day goes by. There are many ways to put content back in the light, with easy widgets, linking out, different styles of themes&#8230;</p>
<p>As for commenting being a full-time job and uncompensated in any way, you are absolutely dead right and dead on. It&#8217;s a JOB. It&#8217;s a task that requires continual reading for a long, long time and it requires breaking away from paying work to come back to interact with people so they feel happy and heard. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not an easy job, either. A comment comes along one year after a post goes live, and you have to 1) remember the post, 2) remember preceeding comments, 3) come comment without being redundent and 4) still add to the conversation &#8211; a year later. (And how many people surf the net each day? And what if every post written requires this?) Takes a good memory and willingness.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 10:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Gigantaur-  You know the actually process of getting a tattoo wasn&#039;t as bad as I would have thought. I didn&#039;t go small, I chose a symbol I&#039;d come across that is a square with two interlocking ovals covering it and it&#039;s about a 3 inch design and then I used birthstone colors for each shape. My son and husband share a birth month, so they had emerald green, my daughter is sapphire and I&#039;m amethyst. So the square is purple and then one oval is green and the other dark blue. On the fleshier part of the calf it really didn&#039;t hurt much at all, but over the ankle bone it was a little more painful. Yet it isn&#039;t real pain, it&#039;s more like a sunburn sensation.

The harder part is sitting still for the two hours it took to complete. I had to sit on what was really a massage table with one leg dangling and the other on the table so that the side of my calf was facing upwards. After a while that position became annoying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Gigantaur-  You know the actually process of getting a tattoo wasn&#8217;t as bad as I would have thought. I didn&#8217;t go small, I chose a symbol I&#8217;d come across that is a square with two interlocking ovals covering it and it&#8217;s about a 3 inch design and then I used birthstone colors for each shape. My son and husband share a birth month, so they had emerald green, my daughter is sapphire and I&#8217;m amethyst. So the square is purple and then one oval is green and the other dark blue. On the fleshier part of the calf it really didn&#8217;t hurt much at all, but over the ankle bone it was a little more painful. Yet it isn&#8217;t real pain, it&#8217;s more like a sunburn sensation.</p>
<p>The harder part is sitting still for the two hours it took to complete. I had to sit on what was really a massage table with one leg dangling and the other on the table so that the side of my calf was facing upwards. After a while that position became annoying.</p>
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		<title>By: Dani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 04:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aurora Wrote:

&quot;Your question was, “If you were in the hiring position, would you look for a person who offered short-term results because of speed or one who offered long-term return because of dedication?”

My answer would be, I would hire only the writer who could do both….. in a single post. :)&quot;


I agree 100%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aurora Wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;Your question was, “If you were in the hiring position, would you look for a person who offered short-term results because of speed or one who offered long-term return because of dedication?”</p>
<p>My answer would be, I would hire only the writer who could do both….. in a single post. <img src='http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> &#8221;</p>
<p>I agree 100%.</p>
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		<title>By: Aurora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aurora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 04:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Valuable content is timeless.&quot;

I think that &quot;timeless content is valuable&quot;, but short-lived content is as equally valuable.

Today&#039;s Freelance Writing Jobs post, for example, is extremely valuable content, and I would hazard a guess that it is not timeless content that will inspire years of discussion or require the blogger to be there day in and day out months from now to comment in the thread. No one will really care too much about the valuable of this specific post a few weeks from now, but to the community of readers, this post is just as important as the ones that produce hundreds of comments and days of insightful discussion.  

Your question was, &quot;If you were in the hiring position, would you look for a person who offered short-term results because of speed or one who offered long-term return because of dedication?&quot;

My answer would be, I would hire only the writer who could do both..... in a single post. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Valuable content is timeless.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think that &#8220;timeless content is valuable&#8221;, but short-lived content is as equally valuable.</p>
<p>Today&#8217;s Freelance Writing Jobs post, for example, is extremely valuable content, and I would hazard a guess that it is not timeless content that will inspire years of discussion or require the blogger to be there day in and day out months from now to comment in the thread. No one will really care too much about the valuable of this specific post a few weeks from now, but to the community of readers, this post is just as important as the ones that produce hundreds of comments and days of insightful discussion.  </p>
<p>Your question was, &#8220;If you were in the hiring position, would you look for a person who offered short-term results because of speed or one who offered long-term return because of dedication?&#8221;</p>
<p>My answer would be, I would hire only the writer who could do both&#8230;.. in a single post. <img src='http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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