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		<title>By: LinseyK</title>
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		<dc:creator>LinseyK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My situation is similar to MM.  I have 4 core clients, adding one or two temporary projects from time to time.  I work between 25-30 hours a week, take care of my 4 kids (who are at home), and I also homeschool.  I may be able to work for less than others, but I am saving over the cost of putting them in daycare.  Writing takes much less time than other duties, and I spend the major portion of my day networking, communicating, and brainstorming/research.  I also do most of my writing in the early and late portions of the day, saving the 9-5 hours for communication.  

Work fluctuates, with some days having several pieces due at one time.  I try to space things out, but those days can be very stressful!

Linsey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My situation is similar to MM.  I have 4 core clients, adding one or two temporary projects from time to time.  I work between 25-30 hours a week, take care of my 4 kids (who are at home), and I also homeschool.  I may be able to work for less than others, but I am saving over the cost of putting them in daycare.  Writing takes much less time than other duties, and I spend the major portion of my day networking, communicating, and brainstorming/research.  I also do most of my writing in the early and late portions of the day, saving the 9-5 hours for communication.  </p>
<p>Work fluctuates, with some days having several pieces due at one time.  I try to space things out, but those days can be very stressful!</p>
<p>Linsey</p>
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		<title>By: MM</title>
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		<dc:creator>MM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elizabeth --
I typically work between 34-40 hours per week to make that kind of money. Those hours include researching and writing, of course, but also the &quot;business upkeep&quot; of invoicing, job prospecting and sending out query/cover letters. Most weeks I earn in the $750 range; it reaches the $1,000 mark when I&#039;m pretty much pulling my hair out from the stress, but of course depends on what projects I&#039;m working on. And I have managed to keep the same core group of 5 clients for about the last year -- all have constant work for me, and all pay very well. That&#039;s how this has worked for me.
Thanks!
MM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elizabeth &#8211;<br />
I typically work between 34-40 hours per week to make that kind of money. Those hours include researching and writing, of course, but also the &#8220;business upkeep&#8221; of invoicing, job prospecting and sending out query/cover letters. Most weeks I earn in the $750 range; it reaches the $1,000 mark when I&#8217;m pretty much pulling my hair out from the stress, but of course depends on what projects I&#8217;m working on. And I have managed to keep the same core group of 5 clients for about the last year &#8212; all have constant work for me, and all pay very well. That&#8217;s how this has worked for me.<br />
Thanks!<br />
MM</p>
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		<title>By: UCrave &#171; Tara Meacham</title>
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		<dc:creator>UCrave &#171; Tara Meacham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] did this primarily because this content site allows applicants to list their rate. Empowered by the recent discussion over at FWG, I enjoyed the opportunity to suggest what my time is [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What LinseyK and MM have said is along the lines of what I am talking about when I said I am more interested in knowing how much people are making per year rather than per article and how many hours they are having to dedicate to the job in order to earn that salary.  While one person may charge $10 for a 500 word article, that person may not have to spend a great deal of time with marketing, pitching for jobs, etc.  So, that person may be making a handsome annual salary while working the same number of hours as a person who makes $100 per article.  To that end, I would be more curious to know how many hours someone like MM is dedicating to his/her profession (not just the actual writing of the article) in order to make $1000 per week rather than how much a writer charges per hour.  With that said, this has certainly been a very interesting poll.  Thanks, Deb!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What LinseyK and MM have said is along the lines of what I am talking about when I said I am more interested in knowing how much people are making per year rather than per article and how many hours they are having to dedicate to the job in order to earn that salary.  While one person may charge $10 for a 500 word article, that person may not have to spend a great deal of time with marketing, pitching for jobs, etc.  So, that person may be making a handsome annual salary while working the same number of hours as a person who makes $100 per article.  To that end, I would be more curious to know how many hours someone like MM is dedicating to his/her profession (not just the actual writing of the article) in order to make $1000 per week rather than how much a writer charges per hour.  With that said, this has certainly been a very interesting poll.  Thanks, Deb!</p>
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		<title>By: LinseyK</title>
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		<dc:creator>LinseyK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Momma,

Generally, because we are &quot;experts&quot; it is assumed that it should take no more than an hour.  I would even say that it should take less than that, as I can do 2 an hour (more or less) of these types of articles.  Every writer is different, but $200 an hour for &quot;actual&quot; writing time is not unreasonable.  You have to remember that your billable hours are different than your writing hours.  You still have to pay for your time spent marketing, job hunting, bill-collecting, insurance, vacation time, sick time, etc.  When you figure all that in, $100-$200 an hour is not asking for too much for a freelancer that relies solely on their work to support themselves (or a family.)

That&#039;s just my experience, however.  I&#039;m sure others have their own take on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Momma,</p>
<p>Generally, because we are &#8220;experts&#8221; it is assumed that it should take no more than an hour.  I would even say that it should take less than that, as I can do 2 an hour (more or less) of these types of articles.  Every writer is different, but $200 an hour for &#8220;actual&#8221; writing time is not unreasonable.  You have to remember that your billable hours are different than your writing hours.  You still have to pay for your time spent marketing, job hunting, bill-collecting, insurance, vacation time, sick time, etc.  When you figure all that in, $100-$200 an hour is not asking for too much for a freelancer that relies solely on their work to support themselves (or a family.)</p>
<p>That&#8217;s just my experience, however.  I&#8217;m sure others have their own take on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Momma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Momma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How long are people taking to write these type of specialized articles?  If it only takes 30 minutes, then the pay could be less. If it takes say 2 hours, the pay should be more... so really, the answer could vary depending on your specialty/niche.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How long are people taking to write these type of specialized articles?  If it only takes 30 minutes, then the pay could be less. If it takes say 2 hours, the pay should be more&#8230; so really, the answer could vary depending on your specialty/niche.</p>
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		<title>By: Tara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the $20 gigs are the only ones available (or seem to be), I accept them, even if they are not on a preferred topic. Truthfully, a lot of jobs at that level involve little to no research or regurgitating very basic information in a more prosaic way. I don&#039;t think these would necessarily meet the criteria Deb originally posted (not Google job/expert article). 

At my current level, I keep writing them to pay the bills. I am still at a full time publishing job, but even at the lower-paying level, my freelance income is approaching what I make at my day job. I am also still trying to build a diverse portfolio to exhibit an expert level on multiple topics. Recently (as in the last month), I started landing those $100+ gigs; I pitched my services and offered the price up front, to much success. I needed those well-written $20 articles to get the $100 gigs, which may prove the point that those articles are worth more than $20.

At this point, I&#039;m not finding many $100 gigs advertised, but I am getting business from referrals before I even complete the jobs. I&#039;m also confined to searching for them on evenings and a one hour lunch break. The $20 articles are the foundation of my ability to potentially consider this as a full time opportunity in the future, now that the income is rivaling that of my day job.

I also keep getting the feeling that my $100+ clients are sure they&#039;ve found a &#039;gem&#039; when they hire me. Perhaps that is also an indication of a potential increase in prices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the $20 gigs are the only ones available (or seem to be), I accept them, even if they are not on a preferred topic. Truthfully, a lot of jobs at that level involve little to no research or regurgitating very basic information in a more prosaic way. I don&#8217;t think these would necessarily meet the criteria Deb originally posted (not Google job/expert article). </p>
<p>At my current level, I keep writing them to pay the bills. I am still at a full time publishing job, but even at the lower-paying level, my freelance income is approaching what I make at my day job. I am also still trying to build a diverse portfolio to exhibit an expert level on multiple topics. Recently (as in the last month), I started landing those $100+ gigs; I pitched my services and offered the price up front, to much success. I needed those well-written $20 articles to get the $100 gigs, which may prove the point that those articles are worth more than $20.</p>
<p>At this point, I&#8217;m not finding many $100 gigs advertised, but I am getting business from referrals before I even complete the jobs. I&#8217;m also confined to searching for them on evenings and a one hour lunch break. The $20 articles are the foundation of my ability to potentially consider this as a full time opportunity in the future, now that the income is rivaling that of my day job.</p>
<p>I also keep getting the feeling that my $100+ clients are sure they&#8217;ve found a &#8216;gem&#8217; when they hire me. Perhaps that is also an indication of a potential increase in prices.</p>
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		<title>By: LinseyK</title>
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		<dc:creator>LinseyK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a hard time choosing just one pay range, so I went with the $30-40 (then I realized that this was too low.)  It all depends on where and how the article will be used.  For example:

A 500 word article on a typical blog might average $40-50, assuming you don&#039;t have to link much.

If it&#039;s an article for a corporate blog or a company website, then I&#039;d expect at least $60, and more likely $100.

If it&#039;s an article for a print magazine that is being published exclusively online, I&#039;d expect somewhere around $200.

It also depends on how much work I&#039;ll be getting, the length of the contract, and how pleasant the editors are.  Nasty people aren&#039;t worth working with at lower rates.  Nicer clients that pay quickly and regularly are worth a discount.

My rates are so varied, that it is difficult to place a single rate on an article.  I would guess that I&#039;m making anywhere from $50 for a 500-word article (low end) all the way up to 5-7 cents a character (including spaces) for web content in the 500-word range.

Business is better now that the economy is turning, in my opinion.  Freelancers are cheaper to keep, even at premium rates.  And for all of you who think there is no $100+ work online, you are mistaken.  I thought that too, at first.  I set my rates at whatever I could get, and gradually, I found higher and higher rates with each new job.  The key is to only accept higher paying, and never lower paying.  Work your way up and replace the low-pay jobs as the high-pay come in. 

I have found much of my very high paying work from the ad listings on places like this.  Also from networking with other writers, writer&#039;s forums, and from directly contacting websites that I know use freelance writers via LinkedIn.  Just keep networking!  If you can write, sell, and meet deadlines, the business will grow.  :)  Consider Reading the Well-Fed Writer books for inspiration on selling your self.  It&#039;s hard work, but really, really worth it.

Thanks for the awesome survey!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a hard time choosing just one pay range, so I went with the $30-40 (then I realized that this was too low.)  It all depends on where and how the article will be used.  For example:</p>
<p>A 500 word article on a typical blog might average $40-50, assuming you don&#8217;t have to link much.</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s an article for a corporate blog or a company website, then I&#8217;d expect at least $60, and more likely $100.</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s an article for a print magazine that is being published exclusively online, I&#8217;d expect somewhere around $200.</p>
<p>It also depends on how much work I&#8217;ll be getting, the length of the contract, and how pleasant the editors are.  Nasty people aren&#8217;t worth working with at lower rates.  Nicer clients that pay quickly and regularly are worth a discount.</p>
<p>My rates are so varied, that it is difficult to place a single rate on an article.  I would guess that I&#8217;m making anywhere from $50 for a 500-word article (low end) all the way up to 5-7 cents a character (including spaces) for web content in the 500-word range.</p>
<p>Business is better now that the economy is turning, in my opinion.  Freelancers are cheaper to keep, even at premium rates.  And for all of you who think there is no $100+ work online, you are mistaken.  I thought that too, at first.  I set my rates at whatever I could get, and gradually, I found higher and higher rates with each new job.  The key is to only accept higher paying, and never lower paying.  Work your way up and replace the low-pay jobs as the high-pay come in. </p>
<p>I have found much of my very high paying work from the ad listings on places like this.  Also from networking with other writers, writer&#8217;s forums, and from directly contacting websites that I know use freelance writers via LinkedIn.  Just keep networking!  If you can write, sell, and meet deadlines, the business will grow.  <img src='http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Consider Reading the Well-Fed Writer books for inspiration on selling your self.  It&#8217;s hard work, but really, really worth it.</p>
<p>Thanks for the awesome survey!</p>
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		<title>By: Momma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Momma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jenn, what is Marcomm writing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jenn, what is Marcomm writing?</p>
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		<title>By: MM</title>
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		<dc:creator>MM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deb,
I&#039;ve been lurking on FWJ for a long time but just had to respond this time. Yes, the $100+ article gigs are out there, but the quality of the writing expected and knowledge required just won&#039;t allow for the possibility of writing several of these per hour. I earn $.50/word for a steady gig I&#039;ve had that requires specialized research from government sources and medical journals. The good part is, I earn up to $1,000 a week doing this. I realize I&#039;m lucky (I&#039;m also very disciplined), but I just can&#039;t understand why anyone would accept a $5 or even $20 article gig. If you can write 50 of these a day, how good can the writing be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deb,<br />
I&#8217;ve been lurking on FWJ for a long time but just had to respond this time. Yes, the $100+ article gigs are out there, but the quality of the writing expected and knowledge required just won&#8217;t allow for the possibility of writing several of these per hour. I earn $.50/word for a steady gig I&#8217;ve had that requires specialized research from government sources and medical journals. The good part is, I earn up to $1,000 a week doing this. I realize I&#8217;m lucky (I&#8217;m also very disciplined), but I just can&#8217;t understand why anyone would accept a $5 or even $20 article gig. If you can write 50 of these a day, how good can the writing be?</p>
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