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		<title>By: Who is making a living as a blogger &#124; Network Blogging Tips</title>
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		<dc:creator>Who is making a living as a blogger &#124; Network Blogging Tips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 23:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] make a living blogging are based on issues you can change such as only taking gigs that pay a livable wage or learning how to query job ads better. Some of it though, is based on luck, the right attitude [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] make a living blogging are based on issues you can change such as only taking gigs that pay a livable wage or learning how to query job ads better. Some of it though, is based on luck, the right attitude [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tania Mara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tania Mara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 09:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like it that you see the difference between a desirable and a livable wage. Is $10 a desirable wage? No, it isn&#039;t. Is it livable? Certainly. And it&#039;s acceptable in my book.

Also, everyone has their own needs. I don&#039;t like people telling me how I must handle my freelance writing business and what type of wage I&#039;m supposed to accept. It&#039;s &lt;b&gt;my&lt;/b&gt; career after all. People are quick to offer one-size-fits-all &quot;solutions&quot; which will supposedly increase your writing income. But they are slow to understand different people have different lifestyles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like it that you see the difference between a desirable and a livable wage. Is $10 a desirable wage? No, it isn&#8217;t. Is it livable? Certainly. And it&#8217;s acceptable in my book.</p>
<p>Also, everyone has their own needs. I don&#8217;t like people telling me how I must handle my freelance writing business and what type of wage I&#8217;m supposed to accept. It&#8217;s <b>my</b> career after all. People are quick to offer one-size-fits-all &#8220;solutions&#8221; which will supposedly increase your writing income. But they are slow to understand different people have different lifestyles.</p>
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		<title>By: Perry Gamsby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perry Gamsby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 08:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Diane (and all), having died once this year I have to confess I see the term &#039;livable wage&#039; in a different light to many friends and associates. While undergoing robotic surgery to repair my mitral valve I died, lost total kidney function, was revived and placed into a coma for 8 days with a 20% chance of coming out OK (you can read all about it www.tunglewood.blogspot.com). I also lived and worked in the Philippines for several years and feeding a family there can be hard graft at the best of times. So yes, the benefits we are entitled to in Australia are a great thing and should be used and never abused. If you want to share them, just migrate. As an American you already have a basic grasp of the language, just shoulda oughta work on your spelling  :o)

Livable all depends on what you feel is important to you and for me that is waking up every morning and being well enough to hug my kids, kiss my wife and let the chickens out of the pen. After that, it&#039;s all a bonus. Cheers Perry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diane (and all), having died once this year I have to confess I see the term &#8216;livable wage&#8217; in a different light to many friends and associates. While undergoing robotic surgery to repair my mitral valve I died, lost total kidney function, was revived and placed into a coma for 8 days with a 20% chance of coming out OK (you can read all about it <a href="http://www.tunglewood.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.tunglewood.blogspot.com</a>). I also lived and worked in the Philippines for several years and feeding a family there can be hard graft at the best of times. So yes, the benefits we are entitled to in Australia are a great thing and should be used and never abused. If you want to share them, just migrate. As an American you already have a basic grasp of the language, just shoulda oughta work on your spelling  <img src='http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
<p>Livable all depends on what you feel is important to you and for me that is waking up every morning and being well enough to hug my kids, kiss my wife and let the chickens out of the pen. After that, it&#8217;s all a bonus. Cheers Perry</p>
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		<title>By: Diane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 15:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS... where do I sign up for the Australian lifestyle? Dang... nice benefits!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS&#8230; where do I sign up for the Australian lifestyle? Dang&#8230; nice benefits!!</p>
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		<title>By: Diane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perry hit the nail on the head. It&#039;s a livable wage if you are paying for food and housing and necessities and don&#039;t live a lavish lifestyle... and I don&#039;t mean a rich lifestyle either. It&#039;s &quot;livable&quot; because you only need food and water and shelter and minimal clothing to live. To survive. To be a human and get by in this world. When your budget gets whittled down to nothing due to divorce, layoffs, or death... you learn then what real living is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perry hit the nail on the head. It&#8217;s a livable wage if you are paying for food and housing and necessities and don&#8217;t live a lavish lifestyle&#8230; and I don&#8217;t mean a rich lifestyle either. It&#8217;s &#8220;livable&#8221; because you only need food and water and shelter and minimal clothing to live. To survive. To be a human and get by in this world. When your budget gets whittled down to nothing due to divorce, layoffs, or death&#8230; you learn then what real living is.</p>
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		<title>By: LIsa</title>
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		<dc:creator>LIsa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me that $/hour is a poor way to determine the value or worth (even the PERCEIVED value and worth) of a person or profession.  

Here&#039;s why: we are NOT alone in earning less than we feel we&#039;re worth.  And we can make choices that will radically increase our income.

Re Not being alone:

In theory (for example) we see care of our young children and infants as so important that many women leave their careers to be available to their little ones. Yet preschool teachers make $10-$15 per hour. 

Clergy, in general, are paid poorly (many, with masters degrees and years of experience, make $40K or less).  

NonProfit managers, educators, writers, fundraisers, etc at museums, theaters, social service agencies and even health care institutions make less than similarly credentialed people in for-profit settings.  


Re doing better financially:

I&#039;ve seen many peers do better than me financially, because they actively chose a more lucrative career (law, medicine, business).  I certainly could have chosen to go into those fields, but I didn&#039;t.  I had my eyes open - and could easily see that the arts, social service, and science typically are less lucrative than business.  

We can make different choices if we so choose!  In fact (just fyi) - a writer who specializes in, say, pharmaceutical sales brochures, can make a WHOLE lot more money than a writer who blogs exclusively.  Same goes for ad copy writing, and even grant writing.

I personally want to do it all - and as a result, I make a moderate to good income.  I could easily imagine someone doing a whole lot better than I, though, just by specializing differently.

Lisa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that $/hour is a poor way to determine the value or worth (even the PERCEIVED value and worth) of a person or profession.  </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s why: we are NOT alone in earning less than we feel we&#8217;re worth.  And we can make choices that will radically increase our income.</p>
<p>Re Not being alone:</p>
<p>In theory (for example) we see care of our young children and infants as so important that many women leave their careers to be available to their little ones. Yet preschool teachers make $10-$15 per hour. </p>
<p>Clergy, in general, are paid poorly (many, with masters degrees and years of experience, make $40K or less).  </p>
<p>NonProfit managers, educators, writers, fundraisers, etc at museums, theaters, social service agencies and even health care institutions make less than similarly credentialed people in for-profit settings.  </p>
<p>Re doing better financially:</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen many peers do better than me financially, because they actively chose a more lucrative career (law, medicine, business).  I certainly could have chosen to go into those fields, but I didn&#8217;t.  I had my eyes open &#8211; and could easily see that the arts, social service, and science typically are less lucrative than business.  </p>
<p>We can make different choices if we so choose!  In fact (just fyi) &#8211; a writer who specializes in, say, pharmaceutical sales brochures, can make a WHOLE lot more money than a writer who blogs exclusively.  Same goes for ad copy writing, and even grant writing.</p>
<p>I personally want to do it all &#8211; and as a result, I make a moderate to good income.  I could easily imagine someone doing a whole lot better than I, though, just by specializing differently.</p>
<p>Lisa</p>
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		<title>By: CK</title>
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		<dc:creator>CK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t considered $10 a livable wage since I was 21 and in college. I have no idea how someone can live on $10/hour. The 16-year-olds at the local grocery store make more than that. 

I think $10/hour is an insulting wage (nevermind whether or not it&#039;s livable). Good writing, especially when paired with other skills, such as marketing, design or SEO, is worth much, much more than that. Years of experience plus graduate-level education should warrant more than $10/hour. But I understand this post is about a livable wage. 

For me, a livable wage is nothing less than $25/hour. Of course, that&#039;s only because I&#039;d like to continue paying bills on time, save for retirement, save for a rainy day and maintain good credit. But maybe that&#039;s just me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t considered $10 a livable wage since I was 21 and in college. I have no idea how someone can live on $10/hour. The 16-year-olds at the local grocery store make more than that. </p>
<p>I think $10/hour is an insulting wage (nevermind whether or not it&#8217;s livable). Good writing, especially when paired with other skills, such as marketing, design or SEO, is worth much, much more than that. Years of experience plus graduate-level education should warrant more than $10/hour. But I understand this post is about a livable wage. </p>
<p>For me, a livable wage is nothing less than $25/hour. Of course, that&#8217;s only because I&#8217;d like to continue paying bills on time, save for retirement, save for a rainy day and maintain good credit. But maybe that&#8217;s just me.</p>
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		<title>By: Perry Gamsby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perry Gamsby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I write for my living and live in Australia. I have a wife, five children and a mortgage. I also contribute to private health insurance for us all ($81 month)although I don;t need to as our public health system is pretty comprehensive. I have my own Super (401(k))which also gives me sufficient life insurance to pay off the house should I die. I have tried oDesk and while not getting any work, I quickly realised I can&#039;t compete with Indian and Filipino writers willing to work for a buck an hour. I nearly fell for www.essaywriters.net but twigged early enough on. 

Basically for me a living wage is $10 an hour but only because we get government assistance for the kids (everybody earning under $150K a year gets the benefit on a sliding scale)and so on so I could actually make nothing and still afford to live. Mind you we live on a budget, don&#039;t smoke or gamble and we save and pay cash for everything, no loans or credit cards. We also save the first 10% of every dollar we get and I run our house like a business.

So I consider myself a wealthy man, and free to boot. I shudder when I read how my American brothers and sisters have to pay $700 a month for healthcare or stick at lousy jobs just in case a loved one gets sick. As for having a degree, last year I did a Master of Arts in Writing, was paid while I studied and will only ever pay the tuition back by installments when my taxable income exceeds $40K pa. Given I had robotic mitral valve surgery this year where we spent more on visitor parking than medical expenses I really would be wasting my life and my good fortune to be an Australian if I didn&#039;t follow my dream and write fulltime. So for me it&#039;s not so much a case of what is a living wage but how can I not afford to write?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I write for my living and live in Australia. I have a wife, five children and a mortgage. I also contribute to private health insurance for us all ($81 month)although I don;t need to as our public health system is pretty comprehensive. I have my own Super (401(k))which also gives me sufficient life insurance to pay off the house should I die. I have tried oDesk and while not getting any work, I quickly realised I can&#8217;t compete with Indian and Filipino writers willing to work for a buck an hour. I nearly fell for <a href="http://www.essaywriters.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.essaywriters.net</a> but twigged early enough on. </p>
<p>Basically for me a living wage is $10 an hour but only because we get government assistance for the kids (everybody earning under $150K a year gets the benefit on a sliding scale)and so on so I could actually make nothing and still afford to live. Mind you we live on a budget, don&#8217;t smoke or gamble and we save and pay cash for everything, no loans or credit cards. We also save the first 10% of every dollar we get and I run our house like a business.</p>
<p>So I consider myself a wealthy man, and free to boot. I shudder when I read how my American brothers and sisters have to pay $700 a month for healthcare or stick at lousy jobs just in case a loved one gets sick. As for having a degree, last year I did a Master of Arts in Writing, was paid while I studied and will only ever pay the tuition back by installments when my taxable income exceeds $40K pa. Given I had robotic mitral valve surgery this year where we spent more on visitor parking than medical expenses I really would be wasting my life and my good fortune to be an Australian if I didn&#8217;t follow my dream and write fulltime. So for me it&#8217;s not so much a case of what is a living wage but how can I not afford to write?</p>
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		<title>By: Almost Ending Up Hurt Made Me Realize What I Need to Do With My Life &#124; DC Femella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Almost Ending Up Hurt Made Me Realize What I Need to Do With My Life &#124; DC Femella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 01:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Money isn&#8217;t everything, and I need to realize that. I saw this article that stated the freelancers could live off of $10/hr. I almost fainted. $10/hr?!  I posted it on FriendFeed, and I realized that I could possibly live [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Money isn&#8217;t everything, and I need to realize that. I saw this article that stated the freelancers could live off of $10/hr. I almost fainted. $10/hr?!  I posted it on FriendFeed, and I realized that I could possibly live [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anne G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Insurances are other factors. For now, I don&#039;t have to worry about it because my husband works and his insurance plans (dental, health and life) are far better than anything I could get through companies offering self-employment. It&#039;s a rare company that even offers life insurance policies for spouses and children of employees, but his does, so we are all covered.

That&#039;s a factor for many though. I have a friend whose husband would love to work from home by becoming self-employed, but they need the insurance coverage, so until their daughter is grown, they don&#039;t want to risk it.

If I didn&#039;t have that insurance coverage, I&#039;m not convinced I&#039;d still be working from home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Insurances are other factors. For now, I don&#8217;t have to worry about it because my husband works and his insurance plans (dental, health and life) are far better than anything I could get through companies offering self-employment. It&#8217;s a rare company that even offers life insurance policies for spouses and children of employees, but his does, so we are all covered.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a factor for many though. I have a friend whose husband would love to work from home by becoming self-employed, but they need the insurance coverage, so until their daughter is grown, they don&#8217;t want to risk it.</p>
<p>If I didn&#8217;t have that insurance coverage, I&#8217;m not convinced I&#8217;d still be working from home.</p>
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